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by Dexing
Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:00 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Or you could stay here and answer questions, and put your ideas up for examination. That's what I have been doing, and it was apparently "repeated failure to respect the focus of this forum". Although they never explained to me where I had broken what term of service here. It said email the admin f...
by Dexing
Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:37 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Like to see those sutta references. But until then, can you explain the meaning of this? http://www.mldc.cn/wsxb/wsqt.htm No one is going to ban you for speaking freely, although you may be ignored. I'd love to hear you clear and obvious answers. Happy to hear you are no longer afraid of playing th...
by Dexing
Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:35 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Which of those fetters (taints, effluents, outflowings, cankers... take your pick) would you recommend a follower of a bodhisattva path deliberately cultivate in order to avoid stream-entry? It is not keeping those fetters that will lead to avoiding stream-entry but to Bodhisattvahood. Rather, it i...
by Dexing
Sun May 30, 2010 9:36 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

. Quote from Dexting: The response to that would take this into the second half of Mahayana teachings, which is beyond the topic at hand. The topic here is the possibility of the Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada. My contention is that it is not possible due to the requirement for a First Ground Bodhi...
by Dexing
Sun May 30, 2010 9:26 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

When you state that "the realization of Emptiness as taught in the Mahayana" is "not found in the Theravada", what do you mean exactly by "emptiness" here? We had an in depth conversation about the Weishi school and the 8 Consciousness teachings before, a detailed discussion on this over at Dharmaw...
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 4:09 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Hi Dexing, Another point. If we are going to have a discussion where the starting point is Theravada doctrine then a statement like this seem a little pointless: My contention is that it is not possible due to the requirement for a First Ground Bodhisattva not being attained through Theravada pract...
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 3:56 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

alan wrote:Have you attained Emptiness and seen reality?
All I can say is that through study and practice I have tasted the validity of this teaching, and have given rise to a faith in it based on that experience.

:namaste:
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 3:50 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

That bit about illusory flowers caused by fatigue, for example, can't be used to prove anything. They have a cause--fatigue, and if you perceive them then they can't be all that unreal. Fatigue may cause one to hallucinate, but those illusory objects are never truly produced objective existences, s...
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 3:24 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Since there is no object, how can their be a subject? This is only breaking the object illusion before the subject. Although once thoroughly disassembled both disappear simultaneously. I see so you not only believe that the object is created by the mind is an illusion but the subject (the mind) is ...
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 3:05 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

As I said earlier, Emptiness is an interesting concept. But it kills right effort. Kills a lot of things, actually. As long as it remains on your lips or in your thinking, it is useless and kills everything. I agree. But if you confirm it and actualize it in your practice, then in that same moment ...
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 2:59 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Not sure what you mean by actual function...can you clarify? In that the practice leads to what it says it does and can be verified and used to help all beings right now. It is not a teaching ordinary beings, and liars no less, could expound. Furthermore, it follows logically the Classical teaching...
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 2:55 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Actually it is stated quite explicitly across many Mahayana Sutras. I have already quoted from the Shurangama Sutra where it states directly in fact that " the Form Aggregate has false views of solidity as its source ", and that it can " neither be attributed to Causes & Conditions, nor to spontane...
by Dexing
Sat May 29, 2010 2:46 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

I guess it is a matter of preference. Both teachings were presented for a reason. That's why I study Mahayana and you study Theravada. Not good, not bad. That assumes that the Buddha taught the Mahayana and that there is historical basis for such an assumption. I said both teachings were presented ...
by Dexing
Fri May 28, 2010 4:29 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

So what is the major point of difference between our schools? and between your achool and the other Mahayana practioners on this thread? Perhaps the following: I guess this could be a major point of difference if you take "the Form Aggregate has false views of solidity as its source" literally. Nob...
by Dexing
Fri May 28, 2010 12:17 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada
Replies: 478
Views: 43213

Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal in Theravada

Can anyone can explain the idea that "Space is color and color is space"? Doesn't make sense to me. Hi alan, Basically what is means is that what we take to be material form is actually only subjective feelings of consciousness. So how do we know a table exists, for example? First of all, through s...