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by binocular
Thu May 09, 2013 12:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 126785

Re: The causes for wisdom

What were are being asked to believe by the Sujin followers, in the most bare terms, is that by thinking about a concept we have heard a remarkable level of concentration and awareness will automatically arise. Well, it's not such an outlandish idea. There are stories of plenty of people who have h...
by binocular
Thu May 09, 2013 8:58 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

Therefore, to explain why some particular kamma ripens at some particular time is difficult. Any such explanation, it seems to me, leads to further "why" questions -- an infinite regress. The Buddha was wise to deem it an unconjecturable. Sure, there are questions that are best put aside. But one o...
by binocular
Thu May 09, 2013 8:56 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

What role does the desire to fit in with the current mainstream scientific understanding of things play in having this take on kamma and rebirth? Inasmuch are some forms of modern Buddhism in fact sophisticated attempts to justify and further the mainstream Western consumerist way of life? None at ...
by binocular
Thu May 09, 2013 7:33 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Predatory Proselytism
Replies: 30
Views: 2134

Re: Predatory Proselytism

Often, when people summon to "dialogue," what they actually mean is 'I want you to listen to me and do as I say.' But this isn't PC to say flat out, so they talk about the importance of dialogue and open-mindedness and tolerance etc.
Hence the fictionality of dialogue.
by binocular
Thu May 09, 2013 7:29 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: “Skillful Means” and the rhetoric of Mahāyāna proselytism
Replies: 63
Views: 15049

Re: “Skillful Means” and the rhetoric of Mahāyāna proselytis

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/ud/ud.3.02.than.html How is the above different from skillful means? In the case of Venerable Nanda, the trick involves two people, one who is in on the trick and one who isn't. And it was resolved within foreseeable time. As things stand, the Mahayanist "...
by binocular
Wed May 08, 2013 8:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

Supposedly, since samsara is without an original cause or starting point, we have cycled through an infinite number of rebirths. But an infinite number of rebirths means that we have at some point created every possible kind of kamma, which means that any sort of vipaka could result at any time. Pe...
by binocular
Wed May 08, 2013 8:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

In other words, structural not temporal. I'm still not clear what you mean by "structural" - could you briefly explain? Also I'm not clear about your objection to a temporal view, given that birth, aging and death are clearly temporal events ( see the nidana definitions in MN9, SN12.2, etc ). It se...
by binocular
Wed May 08, 2013 8:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

Non-time-delineated... i.e. not delineated by any timeframe (whether it be "moments", "lifetimes", whatever...) In other words, structural not temporal. What role does the desire to fit in with the current mainstream scientific understanding of things play in having this take on kamma and rebirth? ...
by binocular
Wed May 08, 2013 8:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

When a child is raped, it happened for no reason other than someone decided to rape a child. Again: How do you know? It is possible to conjecture about the unconjecturables indirectly as well. Decision/volition is still kamma - and here you are conjecturing about the exact workings of it. It looks ...
by binocular
Wed May 08, 2013 8:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

Yes, but if we look at those teachings carefully, we see that the focus is usually on how present action can affect the future, and not so much on past causes. Live according to Dhamma, and you'll create less negative kamma, causing your suffering to be reduced. Sure. "Karmaism"- ie. understanding ...
by binocular
Wed May 08, 2013 8:09 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Predatory Proselytism
Replies: 30
Views: 2134

Re: Predatory Proselytism

Great story! And it illustrates very neatly the root of the problem: any religious belief (Buddhism included!), sincerely and deeply held, trumps all other allegiances and all rational discourse. Discourse between people of different faiths is possible (and I think it's desirable, as most of us wou...
by binocular
Tue May 07, 2013 4:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

LonesomeYogurt wrote:When a child is raped, it happened for no reason other than someone decided to rape a child.
How do you know that?
by binocular
Tue May 07, 2013 4:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

Past-life kamma doesn't really answer these questions either, because we still have to ask "why did this particular kamma ripen this way and at this time?" Supposedly, since samsara is without an original cause or starting point, we have cycled through an infinite number of rebirths. But an infinit...
by binocular
Tue May 07, 2013 12:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

See, this is just a logical analysis I am making. I am not talking about "how exactly does the mind fly through the air" or any kind of speculative question. I don't want to understand rebirth, I just want to stop "understanding" that rebirth isn't possible in any way. If someone would just open th...
by binocular
Tue May 07, 2013 12:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

Huh? You are presenting here a popularist version of karma disconnected from the Buddha's teaching. Namely that people do things and the results of those actions are experienced "out there" in the objective "real world" where they come back to bite you on the butt. I fundamentally disagree with tha...
by binocular
Tue May 07, 2013 7:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

when someone says that talking about past and future lives is speculation, this is a nihilistic assertion. Yet the Buddha said : This is how he attends inappropriately: 'Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what, what was I in the past...
by binocular
Tue May 07, 2013 7:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

What I know is the fabricated (sankhata) nature of samsaric existence, and the truth of the Buddha's teaching on kamma in that context... I know that kamma (and thus, paticcasamuppada) holds true in terms of result in the present and in the future. That provides my direction in life. Then how do yo...
by binocular
Tue May 07, 2013 7:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6108
Views: 463540

Re: the great rebirth debate

Hi Dennenappelmoes, I don't know one way or the other about rebirth and find it pointless speculating about past and future lives. Therefore I set it aside in order to deal with the living of my present life and practice here and now. with kind wishes, Aloka Excellent post, Aloka. is it? it doesnt ...
by binocular
Mon May 06, 2013 7:51 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Vipassana: formal practice or technique or daily life?
Replies: 28
Views: 2861

Re: Vipassana: formal practice or technique or daily life?

It is harder to remember the Dhamma truths when one is at the club or a busy shopping mall. IIRC, a French existentialist philosopher once remarked that one is defined the most by what one does when one has to wait. I find this to be true. I feel most alert when I have to wait somewhere, like in a ...
by binocular
Mon May 06, 2013 7:37 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Vipassana: formal practice or technique or daily life?
Replies: 28
Views: 2861

Re: Vipassana: formal practice or technique or daily life?

Robertk has posted a thread with this title in Classical Theravada and invited people who are interested in other approaches to do this elsewhere. I think it may be worthwhile to explore why there are diametrically opposed approaches to this question. /.../ For my part I think Khun Sujin's views ar...