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by Dinsdale
Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:37 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the Solway "debate"

As already explained, in Dhamma language "birth and death" do not refer to physical life and death. "Birth" (jati) refers to the birth of the false "I", and "death" refers to the dissolution and suffering that results from attachment. Even if one accepts this meaning of jati in the context of depen...
by Dinsdale
Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the authority of the suttas.
Replies: 41
Views: 5045

Re: On the authority of the suttas.

A quote from Danielion: Did the Buddha teach that the suttas are a valid source of authority? Corollary: are the suttas a proper object for a Buddhist to have faith in? Add the rapidly growing body of historical-critical scholarship into the mix, and we have a sobering effect on those who believe i...
by Dinsdale
Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:53 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?
Replies: 65
Views: 9074

Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

I don't even agree with myself a lot of the time.... :jumping:
by Dinsdale
Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:35 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

My argument is against the literal rebirth belief. If you don't believe in literal rebirth then my argument isn't with you. Do you mean you're against the belief that literal rebirth is in the Nikayas, or that you're against a personal belief in literal rebirth, or both? These are quite distinct an...
by Dinsdale
Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:46 pm
Forum: Lounge (Archive)
Topic: Word Association Game
Replies: 11969
Views: 636430

Re: Word Association Game

clock-watching
by Dinsdale
Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:19 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

Escape from samsara, the round of rebirth, occurs at pari-Nibbana. Repeating logical fallacies, such as the appeal to the authority of some words someone has written, and someone elses interpretation of those words, is not reasons, and is not reasoned argument. I'm "repeating" what is described in ...
by Dinsdale
Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:10 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

KevinSolway wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:So, from your place of direct knowledge, what happens with death? Rebirth?
I presume you are talking about physical death, rather than the death that is spoken of in rebirth language.
I still don't understand what you mean by "rebirth language."
by Dinsdale
Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:09 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

As requested, some teachings from Buddhadasa on the topic of rebirth, and the realms of existence. These teachings are truly like gold. Firstly, from his "TWO KINDS OF LANGUAGE: Everyday Language & Dhamma language" In Dhamma language, the word "birth" refers to the birth of the idea "I" or "ego" th...
by Dinsdale
Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:01 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

. . . the continuation of a mental continuum The Buddha himself argued against the existence of such a thing. In the Mahàtanhàsankhaya Sutta there is the story of Sati, a fisherman's son, who held the view that each person has a mental continuum, which runs on and continues without break from one l...
by Dinsdale
Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:04 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

Buddhas are not supposed to experience ageing and death, since they have escaped samsara. Buddhahood- enlightenment - means the cessation of lust, hatred and delusion, not the cessation of ageing and death - see here for example: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn35/sn35.152.wlsh.html" o...
by Dinsdale
Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:47 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

And here you are choosing to interpret the realms to be physical rather than psychological. In my opinion it is a false interpretation. Again, I'm just reading what the suttas say. The realms are invariably discussed in the context of beings reappearing in different destinations according to their ...
by Dinsdale
Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:32 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

KevinSolway wrote:
porpoise wrote:making up a completely new meaning . . .
The fact that the Buddha experienced ageing and death means that it is those who cling to the literal rebirth interpretation who are making things up.
I don't follow this argument atall.
by Dinsdale
Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:26 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Pali Term: Sati
Replies: 271
Views: 53677

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Would it be correct to say that sati has both passive and active qualities? Being mindful of the four frames, but also acting mindfully? I would say that sati is both remembrance to maintain awareness in the chosen aspect of experience, and remembrance to apply right effort. Thanks, I will give thi...
by Dinsdale
Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:19 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

KevinSolway wrote:In religion and philosophy it is very common for interpretations to have no connection to the meaning intended by the author.
So we ignore what the suttas say, and just make up our own meanings based on our personal likes and dislikes and / or what this or that monk said?
by Dinsdale
Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:12 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Critique of "jhana among Western converts"
Replies: 329
Views: 4345

Re: the great rebirth debate

In the language of rebirth "Ageing and death" refers to the dissolution of happiness. First there comes the birth of the false "I", and with it, attachment. When you are attached to something, then at first you experience pleasure, but with time you will experience pain, and loss. That is what is m...