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by Dinsdale
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link
Replies: 81
Views: 917

Re: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link

Also, the third and fourth links (consciouness and nama-rupa) can perhaps be thought of as a single unit since they each rely on the other for them to arise.....seems like they arise together as different aspects of some more singular concept. T This is not the case in most DO suttas. At best this ...
by Dinsdale
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link
Replies: 81
Views: 917

Re: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link

If you think, jāti in dependent origination is not physical birth (which is its obvious meaning and which is supported by SN 12.2), then provide definition, what exactly jāti means in dependent origination (preferably with a citation for your claim). Don't cite some random passages from the suttas ...
by Dinsdale
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link
Replies: 81
Views: 917

Re: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link

pegembara wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:05 am
For there to be birth (jati), there must first be a being (bhava) to be born.
In DO jati is clearly described as physical birth, so I don't understand this comment. Also "bhava" doesn't mean a "being".
by Dinsdale
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:09 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link
Replies: 81
Views: 917

Re: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link

Here is the nidana "definition" for the second link, from SN12.2: “And what, bhikkhus, are the volitional formations? There are these three kinds of volitional formations: the bodily volitional formation, the verbal volitional formation, the mental volitional formation. These are called the volitio...
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Throwing food
Replies: 45
Views: 436

Re: Throwing food

D1W1 wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:51 am
The question is, is throwing food bad kamma or not?
I don't think it's bad kamma, but I do question why so much food is thrown away - presumably it is people buying too much in the first place.
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link
Replies: 81
Views: 917

Re: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link

DooDoot wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:06 am
If intentional actions are performed at the 2nd link, why is there another 10 links?
Presumably to explain how these volitional formations lead to suffering.
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Does ignorance originates from defilement ?
Replies: 25
Views: 550

Re: Does ignorance originates from defilement ?

As I'm sure you know there are many interpretations of DO, some traditional and some contemporary. Personally I don't find any of them satisfactory. Could you could explain how ignorance arises in dependence upon aging and death, which would be necessary for your "circular" interpretation of DO? Co...
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Is it okey to buy Meat in a foodstore and eat?
Replies: 50
Views: 817

Re: Is it okey to buy Meat in a foodstore and eat?

cappuccino wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:47 pm
Meat has ever been the diet of humanity.
You could make the same argument about violence, war, slavery, crime etc. It's another :strawman:

These days most of us have a choice about our diet. We don't have to buy meat, we choose to.
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Self is an Illusion
Replies: 43
Views: 820

Re: Self is an Illusion

SamKR wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:33 am
Self (or sense of self) arises.
IMO this is a vital distinction which is often glossed over. Self and sense of self, these are quite different things.
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link
Replies: 81
Views: 917

Re: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link

LINK NO. 3 : VINNANA (CONSCIOUSNESS) As mentioned above, Sankhara (Volition) is the will or volition that Conditions Vinnana (Consciousness) to arise again every time it ceases. The DO suttas clearly describe one nidana arising in dependence upon the previous nidana, so in this case vinnana arises ...
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:22 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Is it okey to buy Meat in a foodstore and eat?
Replies: 50
Views: 817

Re: Is it okey to buy Meat in a foodstore and eat?

And wrong view is not harmless. Any view which leads to harm is by definition not harmless. In this case it is ( unnecessary ) harm to other living beings. Note that the path factor of Right Intention ( Right Resolve ) includes developing harmlessness. "Of those, right view is the forerunner. And h...
by Dinsdale
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link
Replies: 81
Views: 917

Re: Dependant Arising - 2nd Link

Isn't the second link just: Intentional actions are performed based on ignorance? Basically that sounds correct - volitional formations arise in dependence upon ignorance. Here is the nidana "definition" for the second link, from SN12.2: “And what, bhikkhus, are the volitional formations? There are...
by Dinsdale
Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:29 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Does ignorance originates from defilement ?
Replies: 25
Views: 550

Re: Does ignorance originates from defilement ?

Actually I think the interpretation of DO spanning multiple lifetimes is valid, but IMO the logical candidate for cyclical existence is the bhava nidana, since birth(s) arise in dependence upon it. I see the three lives model as somewhat contrived, though perhaps less contrived than some of the alt...
by Dinsdale
Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:35 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self.’
Replies: 7
Views: 212

Re: ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self.’

He's referring to any notion of "myself", whether it's a personal self, absolute self, conventional self, universal self, etc, etc. Though "I have no self" is also a view about self. I suspect this is less to do with a view or position ( see DN1 ), and more to do with a practice, that of non-identi...
by Dinsdale
Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:19 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Does ignorance originates from defilement ?
Replies: 25
Views: 550

Re: Does ignorance originates from defilement ?

I'm still not seeing a basis for your assertion that DO is a circle - could you explain this with reference to DO suttas? I think there is a basis for saying that some nidanas are cyclical internally, eg bhava represents a cycle of birth and death, but I don't see how DO as a whole is a circle. It'...