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by Saengnapha
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

I think you could say that self-view is derived from the raw experience. Nanananda seems to be arguing that the bifurcation is a purely mental process, I am observing that it isn't described like this in the suttas. In the suttas the initial bifurcation is physical and functional, based on sense or...
by Saengnapha
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:30 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we teach Anicca, Dukkha , Anatta without the teaching of rebirth and Kamma?
Replies: 43
Views: 2018

Re: Can we teach Anicca, Dukkha , Anatta without the teaching of rebirth and Kamma?

I would find it easier to accept that label I don't think it is the right label. Perhaps I would call him/her a socially responsible Nhilist. If a person does not accept Dependent Origination, Noble Eightfold Path and Four Noble Truths, s/he is not a Buddhist. Are you a Buddhist? https://dhammawhee...
by Saengnapha
Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:46 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Why Westerners can't extend loving kindness to themselves?
Replies: 29
Views: 3134

Re: Why Westerners can't extend loving kindness to themselves?

binocular wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:09 pm
SarathW wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:46 am
"Westerners can't extend loving kindness to themselves"
Religious/spiritual teachers teach us that we aren't worthy of loving-kindness, or just plain goodwill. They mostly do so indirectly, though, esp. with the way they ridicule and belittle our concerns.
Quite true.
by Saengnapha
Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:30 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

I think you could say that self-view is derived from the raw experience. Nanananda seems to be arguing that the bifurcation is a purely mental process, I am observing that it isn't described like this in the suttas. In the suttas the initial bifurcation is physical and functional, based on sense or...
by Saengnapha
Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

There are many interpretations of DO. Perhaps you could explain exactly what is wrong with the challenges I have made above. There's nothing wrong with your challenges. What I'm saying is that your desire to understand DO is based on discursive thought while the Arhat's is not, it is based on penet...
by Saengnapha
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is consciousness the problem
Replies: 32
Views: 1588

Re: Is consciousness the problem

I would venture that the mind faculty is the seat of awareness - whether or not it is in contact with mind objects and mind consciousness. I think you’re imputing a westernized view of the word onto the background of things here. It makes sense - but is it in line with the Buddha’s statements? I'm ...
by Saengnapha
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

A couple of challenges to this interpretation: 1. In the suttas the description of the name+form nidana looks roughly equivalent to the five aggregates, so I fail to see how it could equate merely to the "objects seen" by "me". This interpretation seems to hinge on the idea of a mutual dependence o...
by Saengnapha
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is consciousness the problem
Replies: 32
Views: 1588

Re: Is consciousness the problem

Imagine if you removed sense consciousness from the picture. In your world view, assumedly, a person would go blind or deaf or unconscious. In my world view a person would enter “neither perception nor non-perception”. Ie. the sense object would exist exactly as it was formerly perceived - however ...
by Saengnapha
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

:juggling: Hi DooDoot I think your understanding of the Upanishads and the rishis wich equates to zero understanding and is just sticking to an uneducated view and your textbook quoting of buddha dharma is over literate and out of context. But I will leave it there as its hard for me to talk to boo...
by Saengnapha
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

This is a key question. Bhikkhu K. Ñāṇananda, in the "Nibbana Sermons" [Nibbāna – The Mind Stilled. Library Edition (Sermons 1 – 33) http://seeingthroughthenet.net/books/ ] and other works discusses this in great detail. P204: The discrimination between an ‘internal’ and an ‘external’ is the outcom...
by Saengnapha
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

The Buddha reputedly had teachers. It appears the Buddha did not have any teachers that taught him Buddha-Dhamma (4NTs, 3Cs, D.O, Sunnata, etc). According to the suttas, what Gotama was taught he rejected. In this way did Alara Kalama, my teacher, place me, his pupil, on the same level with himself...
by Saengnapha
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: duality and non-duality in theravada
Replies: 67
Views: 7236

Re: duality and non-duality in theravada

This would mean you do not believe the Buddha was a Buddha (self-enlightened; without a teacher). In many places, such as the 1st Sermon, the Buddha said he realised things he never heard before. The Buddha reputedly had teachers. Someone like Ramana Maharshi never had a teacher, but he is not call...
by Saengnapha
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dukkha a learned thing?
Replies: 22
Views: 933

Re: Is Dukkha a learned thing?

Faulty? How can the built-in functions of the OS be faulty? The child is not busy figuring this stuff out, it is busy trying to identify and adapt to his/her surroundings. Perhaps the mal-adaption to existence might be a better way of describing this. Claiming the organism is at fault is a sure way...
by Saengnapha
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dukkha a learned thing?
Replies: 22
Views: 933

Re: Is Dukkha a learned thing?

SarathW wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:46 am
Consciousness is arise due to causes and conditions.
Consciousness is arise due to defilements.
Consciousness is another concept in your mind. Let these images go and you will see what the nature of mind is, not all this verbalization.
by Saengnapha
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dukkha a learned thing?
Replies: 22
Views: 933

Re: Is Dukkha a learned thing?

"In the centuries since the Buddha’s time, teachers who follow the canon have adopted the vision of the path as purification, stressing the need to cleanse the mind of its defilements if awakening is to occur. In the Thai Wilderness tradition, for instance, teachers frequently describe Dhamma pract...