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by one_awakening
Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Anger
Replies: 50
Views: 3903

Re: Anger

dharmacorps wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:58 pm
Is your question really if anger serves any purpose, or is it "can we use it on the path"?
Both are the same question. If anger can be used on the path, then it serves a purpose.
by one_awakening
Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Anger
Replies: 50
Views: 3903

Anger

Anger is a common emotion and people often feel that they need to express their anger. Does anger serve any purpose?
by one_awakening
Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:36 am
Forum: Theravāda for Beginners
Topic: How to stop associating yourself with your thoughts?
Replies: 47
Views: 5843

Re: How to stop associating yourself with your thoughts?

.....I don't know how to go about rooting out the idea that it is 'me' in control and also, where I go from my current level of realisation? I don't think it's something that you want to "root out". It comes back to mindfulness. Simply observe the rising and passing away of thoughts. If you can mai...
by one_awakening
Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.
Replies: 10
Views: 1046

Re: Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.

Saengnapha wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:45 am
I have never come across anyone worth their salt who teaches to sit with pain, especially beginners.
See a friend of mine just started meditating and did a ten-day retreat at a Buddhist monastery and was instructed to sit and meditate, and not move.
by one_awakening
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.
Replies: 10
Views: 1046

Re: Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.

Saengnapha wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:58 am
If you're referring to sitting cross-legged, try sitting in a chair.
The question is not how to relieve pain, the question is why some teachers teach to sit with pain while others say don't sit with pain.
by one_awakening
Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

Not necessarily, feeling tone is more on an animal instinct level. So feeling tone is something like a disposition you already have. Someone who loves apples has a pleasant disposition towards apples. When he comes into contact with the apple he experiences a pleasant feeling tone and the mind then...
by one_awakening
Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

Goofaholix wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:55 am
So it's feeling then perception not the other way around.
But doesn't your perception first have to identify the object let's say an apple, as an apple before a feeling can arise?
by one_awakening
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

samseva wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:13 pm
Feeling (vedanā)—be it pleasant, unpleasant, or indifferent—as per Dependent Origination, is bound with consciousness in all forms and situations, whatsoever. So it's not just a "mental construct"
Again, I'm talking about perceptions, not feelings.
by one_awakening
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.
Replies: 10
Views: 1046

Re: Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.

Saengnapha wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:19 pm
What kind of pain are you talking about?
Leg pain.
by one_awakening
Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.
Replies: 10
Views: 1046

Sit with Pain. Don't sit with Pain.

Some teachers say to sit with pain. Others say don't sit with pain, just get comfortable. Are they different practices with different goals? For me, when I've sat with pain for long periods, I find it helps develops equanimity. However it prevents the entering of Jhanas. Sitting without pain allows ...
by one_awakening
Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

I can understand that an apple can be regarded as intrinsically pleasant and desirable because it's food, it's sweet and has a pleasant taste, but someone may hate the taste of apples and find them unpleasant and undesirable. So how can we say that the apple is desirable independent of perceptions, ...
by one_awakening
Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

....it may be that the object itself remains inherently desirable or undesirable independently of the perceiver's personal preferences. The Abhidamma philosophies are written by people far wiser than me, so I take it as fact, but if you can help me understand how an object can be desirable without ...
by one_awakening
Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

....it may be that the object itself remains inherently desirable or undesirable independently of the perceiver's personal preferences. I'm not sure that an object can remain independently desirable or undesirable. For an object to be desirable for example, it needs to be perceived as desirable. Th...
by one_awakening
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

As for your question, these aren't perceptions, you simply perceive them, and to perceive them, they probably exist, no? Are you wondering if these exist or not because they are partly mental reactions to physical formations? I guess what I'm saying is that the perception of something being pleasan...
by one_awakening
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 4114

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

pyluyten wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:56 am
Feelings do exist, otherwise why would you discuss these? This whole forum is about dukkha.

Or you are free to consider there is an illusion that only quiets during dhyana.
I'm not actually taking about feelings. I'm talking about perceptions.