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by mikenz66
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:32 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?
Replies: 14
Views: 208

Re: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?

To me, it looks like contemplation on Dhamma means contemplation on Buddha's teaching. Yes, that's one way of interpreting it, but it is also about observing and developing (in the case of the factors of awakening) or abandoning (in the case of the hindrances) aspects of mind, as in the quote I gav...
by mikenz66
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?
Replies: 14
Views: 208

Re: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?

To put it rather crudely, I think the first is basically noticing one's state of mind, while the second is noticing the nature of one's experience generally, using various frameworks. I think that's a good summary. If you read the sutta, cittanupassana could be roughly translated as "mood". It’s wh...
by mikenz66
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why do Buddhas never joke?
Replies: 14
Views: 410

Re: Why do Buddhas never joke?

form wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:26 am
Might be good if Dr Gombrich can come out with a few modern commentaries on a few suttas for illustration.
He has:

https://ocbs.org/what-the-buddha-thought/
https://tricycle.org/magazine/what-buddha-thought/

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Mike
by mikenz66
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:34 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Tantric Theravada?
Replies: 122
Views: 36894

Re: Tantric Theravada?

Chatter moved or deleted. This thread is for serious discussion of tantric practices in a Theravada context.

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Mike
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?
Replies: 21
Views: 266

Re: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?

salayatananirodha wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:55 pm
I didn't believe they were translating meditation as hypnosis. Or else you would find meditation translated by them as hypnosis in other suttas. I think the kasiṇas are just used for samatha.
Samatha isn't hypnosis, whether one is using breath, kasina, mettaor some other object....

Mike
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?
Replies: 21
Views: 266

Re: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?

Hilarious? One of the hilariously bad translations of the early English translation era.... :tongue: :heart: Mike I just didn't see what was so bad about it :rolleye: Really? Meditation as hypnosis or trance? Clearly not an experienced-based translation as others gave already noted. Mike
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 223
Views: 2855

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

I asked some questions if you are not beyond being questioned btw. I think Zom answered them quite well. If I wanted to expand, I would mostly be simply quoting Ven Nananda's Nibbana Sermons: http://seeingthroughthenet.net/books/ who goes does a careful analysis of the suttas dealing with cessation...
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 223
Views: 2855

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Looking at the Pali the dictionary lookup on Sutta Central, and using Ireland's translation for the terms: https://suttacentral.net/iti43 “Atthi, bhikkhave, ajātaṃ abhūtaṃ akataṃ asaṅkhataṃ. ... exists/is-found, monks, not-born, not-brought-to-being, not-made, not-conditioned. ... The usual English ...
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 223
Views: 2855

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Do you think the made could exist if there was no not-made? Here's an alternative translation that avoids the assumption that nibbana is some sort of "think" or "place": This said by the Blessed One, the Worthy One, was heard by me in this way: "Monks, there is freedom from birth, freedom from beco...
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:51 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?
Replies: 21
Views: 266

Re: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?

salayatananirodha wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:41 am
Hilarious?
One of the hilariously bad translations of the early English translation era.... :tongue:

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Mike
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 223
Views: 2855

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

The sutta in question is: “One perception arose and another perception ceased in me: ‘The cessation of existence is nibbāna; the cessation of existence is nibbāna.’ Just as, when a fire of twigs is burning, one flame arises and another flame ceases, so one perception arose and another perception ce...
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:29 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?
Replies: 21
Views: 266

Re: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?

Yes, that's hilarious. Here is Bhikkhu Sujato's translation, along with the Pali: Ten universal dimensions of meditation. Dasa kasiṇāyatanāni. Someone perceives the meditation on universal earth above, below, across, non-dual and limitless. Pathavīkasiṇameko sañjānāti, uddhaṃ adho tiriyaṃ advayaṃ ap...
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:16 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?
Replies: 21
Views: 266

Re: Did Buddha ever know about the hypnotism?

Kasiṇa meditation is translated like self-hypnosis somewhere on suttacentral. I don't think it's so specific. The old PTS texts translate jhana as "trance": Herein a monk, aloof from sensuality, aloof from evil states, enters on the first trance which is accompanied by thought directed and sustaine...