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by Prasadachitta
Thu May 17, 2012 6:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

Perhaps what Batchelor is trying to do here is to generate a Dhamma explication which he thinks the Buddha would have used if, instead of brahmins, he had dealt mostly with atheists. Speculative. It seems to me the Buddha tended to nudge eternalists towards non eternalism and annihilationists towar...
by Prasadachitta
Thu May 17, 2012 5:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

http://www.buddhistgeeks.com/2010/06/bg-175-the-buddhist-atheist/ Now karma is another matter all together. I find it quite unproblematic to state that when I die, the effects of my actions will continue in the world. If I have a heart attack now, and drop dead, that doesn’t mean that my books or t...
by Prasadachitta
Thu May 17, 2012 4:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

While Batchelor may be saying that the efficacy of intentional action does not extend into a next life I do not think it is clear in this essay that he is in any way diminishing nirvana. I think denying the efficacy of intentional action into the next life does rather significantly diminish nirvana...
by Prasadachitta
Thu May 17, 2012 12:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

Rather than attaining nirvana, I see the aim of Buddhist practice to be the moment-to-moment flourishing of human life within the ethical framework of the eightfold path here on earth. This seems to me like accepting a lesser goal. There is nothing wrong with that, as in this lifetime I am not aimi...
by Prasadachitta
Wed May 16, 2012 9:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

This is the dichotomy of note, the distinction which you rightly mention as the sticking point; but if we're going to be ecumenical and accept that there is progress to be made on the Path in, say, Zen circles, Secular Buddhism warrants a similar mulligan. If it it is the only real distinguishing p...
by Prasadachitta
Wed May 16, 2012 8:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

What does he mean by nirvana? Is he insinuating that it is other than a result which arises from the eightfold path here on earth? What does he mean by moment to moment flourishing? I would suggest that he will start describing nirvana. So having denied that nirvana is the aim of Buddhist practice,...
by Prasadachitta
Wed May 16, 2012 4:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

I am simply trying to explain the approach, since you said it sounded strange. Taking the Mahavamsa at its word when it says that Visnu is the protector of Sri Lankan Buddhism is a bit strange, as well, from certain points of view, not least of which is the bald anachronism of it. The question here...
by Prasadachitta
Wed May 16, 2012 3:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

Its as if he thinks that he has figured out what Buddhism should be and then goes about saying what most Buddhists would agree it already is except for that one single point. And the point about nirvana. The attainment of which he does not regard as the aim of Buddhist practice. Hi Kirk5a, You Mean...
by Prasadachitta
Wed May 16, 2012 3:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

The Dhamma is taken as being in an epistemological category, and not a metaphysical one, a distinction made in Western philosophy. Hi Devarupa, I have trouble getting much from this statement. How much background in Western philosophical categories do I need to understand what you are saying here. ...
by Prasadachitta
Wed May 16, 2012 5:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

Other than Stephen Batchelor's lack of confidence in the Karma as a type of conditionality... That's pretty huge. (I know very little about Mr. Batchelor's views.) Hi Buckwheat, I agree that it is very significant. What Im saying is that his tone seams to indicate that everything else he is saying ...
by Prasadachitta
Tue May 15, 2012 9:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Secular view - The Future of Religion
Replies: 80
Views: 8403

Re: Secular view - The Future of Religion

Other than Stephen Batchelor's lack of confidence in Karma as a type of conditionality I dont think he says anything out of line with what he calls "religious" Buddhism. He says "“Enlightenment,” therefore – though I prefer the term “awakening” – is not a mystical insight into the true nature of min...
by Prasadachitta
Fri May 11, 2012 5:46 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Enlightenment...Nirvana...I am arahat
Replies: 155
Views: 13923

Re: Enlightenment...Nirvana...I am arahat

I will be resorting myself to studying the Buddha's teachings. I am happy to hear it. I recommend being receptive to the possibility that there is something deeply profound which you have not yet realized. Not necessarily because its true but because it is a positive and productive posture for the ...
by Prasadachitta
Tue May 08, 2012 6:47 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Enlightenment...Nirvana...I am arahat
Replies: 155
Views: 13923

Re: Enlightenment...Nirvana...I am arahat

Your responses indicate your profane unenlightened nature, your jealousy, your hatred - things I have never experienced in my life. Hello Volcommerce, So what have you experienced in your life which has been overcome? You have mentioned how virtuous you have been and that is nice to hear. I think t...
by Prasadachitta
Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:06 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Thoughts on Form and Consciousness in Dependent Origination
Replies: 19
Views: 2923

Re: Thoughts on Form and Consciousness in Dependent Origination

ZOM Paticca-samuppada speaks more about the ultimate level of cessation, not just about "psychological". And on that ultimate level the meaning of these links is total cessation, destruction of khandhas. With no consciousness there is no nama-rupa, no contact, no feelings. And when there are no feel...
by Prasadachitta
Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sotāpanna requirements
Replies: 60
Views: 9080

Re: Sotāpanna requirements

Confidence in the Buddha means knowing the Buddha is enlightened. Confidence in the Dhamma means to know that these teachings are the truth, so one can not follow any other teacher, only the Buddha. Confidence in the Sangha means knowing others can also be enligthened. . I find it a valuable questi...