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by ToVincent
Thu May 28, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sleight of hand?
Replies: 81
Views: 1433

Re: Sleight of hand?

Although I have no particular love for the Upanishads, I did read them (the pre-Buddhism and close contemporary ones) - And I also did read Veda as a whole (excluding the Atharva - which I just use as a pre-Buddhist Indian text, for lexicographical purpose only). So I am not just pretending to know ...
by ToVincent
Sat May 23, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: mind (citta- or mano-)
Replies: 7
Views: 338

Re: mind (citta- or mano-)

These extracts might show the difference between mano & citta: In one who has joy, delight arises. In one who has delight of mano, the body becomes serene. When the body is serene, one feels pleasure. Feeling pleasure, the citta becomes established. When the mind is established, phenomena become man...
by ToVincent
Fri May 22, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: mind (citta- or mano-)
Replies: 7
Views: 338

Re: mind (citta- or mano-)

Favor Anandajoti's translation.

Those who will restrain the mind/citta — that roams far (dūraṅgamaṃ), is lonesome (ekacaraṃ), without a body (asarīraṃ), hidden (guhāsayaṃ - lit. "inclined to hide") — gain release from the bonds of Māra.
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by ToVincent
Fri May 22, 2020 4:54 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?

ToVincent There is no blissful and continuous Self/self (atta) - like Ka - in the salayatana nidana and below. Is that hard to understand. I don't care about what the "materialists" thought. That's your problem. Actually, it’s your problem. Now learn about Self/self in the Veda. Maybe you'll find t...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?

You seem to be arguing that the Buddha only denied a divine self. Did I ever mean that? There is no blissful and continuous Self/self (atta) - like Ka - in the salayatana nidana and below. Is that hard to understand. I don't care about what the "materialists" thought. That's your problem. Now learn...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: Right effort and anatta

:candle:
Ceisiwr wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 6:12 pm
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You want dancing lessons.
You pay the bill?
If I need lessons on Veda, I'll call you.
Maybe we can arrange something.

Meanwhile, when did I "argue that the Buddha criticised the idea of a divine Self or self,..."?!?!?
:rolleye:
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by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: Right effort and anatta

I’ll take that as a no then. Nothing wrong in being an amateur of course. _________ The materialists didn’t believe in a “ka” or divine self, but they still thought there was a self or being. How does your analysis apply to them? I can only repeat the question. At this point you seem to be evading ...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: Right effort and anatta

So, have you studied these texts and Sanskrit professionally? I’m just interested if you have qualifications in them or not. I think you should ask people if they are part of a sect, cult, or any secret fraternal order or fellowship. That would be more proper. Moreover, when I see Sujato translatin...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: Right effort and anatta

Hi Vincent, What’s your background in Sanskrit and Vedic texts/lexicography? Do you have qualifications in it or are you self taught? What's yours, Bro? -------- ToVincent: There is no Ka — the continuous and blissful self — in saḷāyatana nidāna and below — because things are neither continuous (an...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 11:38 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: Right effort and anatta

confusedlayman wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 9:54 am
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Ultimate, conventional, etc.
What's that?
Where in the suttas?

Oh, late stuff!
Ah ok! — whatever you say.
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 11:30 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: Right effort and anatta

Greetings, You may see no refutation but it's as plain as day. The translator even comments on it in their translation note. Holy Molly — how long is this nonsense going to last? For as long as you deny what the Sutta says? :shrug: For as long as you persist with this Ka caca? :shrug: Metta, Paul. ...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 7:36 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 35
Views: 1062

Re: Right effort and anatta

The first post of this sequence Visuddhimagga XIX19 “There is no doer of a deed, or one who reaps the result. Phenomena alone flow on, no other view than this right. points out that there are no doers of deeds, and that the characteristics of action are imaginary. That would appear to be fairly unc...
by ToVincent
Mon May 18, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: pariyatti and pattipati
Replies: 9
Views: 359

Re: pariyatti and pattipati

thanks for another great question. Moggalana, I think, was a Mara god in one past life. Really no one is totally lost, even if it takes another life to reorient in the right direction.. Edit. Moggallana: "in the time of Buddha Kakusandha. I was a Mara by the name of Dusi and my sister was Kali and ...
by ToVincent
Mon May 18, 2020 1:52 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: pariyatti and pattipati
Replies: 9
Views: 359

Re: pariyatti and pattipati

Another question: Do you think that maras (lower devas) can reach pariyatti? - or they just pretend to be able to. As in: "they know exactly what's going on in this world and the other; yet they are not ready to (or maybe just can't) change their mind (cit), and go beyond — so they do play "moralist...
by ToVincent
Mon May 18, 2020 12:33 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: pariyatti and pattipati
Replies: 9
Views: 359

Re: pariyatti and pattipati

So where is the line between pariyatti (theory) and patipatti (direct understanding).. Ask Nina van Gorkom. I remember a not so old conversation on the yahoo dsg group she sponsors, where she said that she was waiting to understand the abhi-dhamma, before she could start practicing. She had already...