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by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:10 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition
Replies: 30
Views: 3501

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

R1111 wrote:Im curious if OP has an opposing theory
Theories are irrelevant in this sub forum. The commentary tradition, which my OP is asking about, is considered authoritative here.
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition - off topic posts
Replies: 20
Views: 1534

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

cappuccino wrote:thinking you have no self would imply annihilation

thinking all is not-self would be different

that's the issue, enough said
No. You are in the Classical Theravada forum. You are supposed to provide the reference that I am requesting.
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition - off topic posts
Replies: 20
Views: 1534

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

The Blessed One would never say that on the dissolution of the body the saint who has lost all depravity is annihilated, perishes, and does not exist after death . Yamaka Sutta http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.085.than.html This is not the statement that I am asking you to provi...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition - off topic posts
Replies: 20
Views: 1534

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

Ananda Sutta: To Ananda (On Self, No Self, and Not-self) http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn44/sn44.010.than.html The section in question is in brackets that signify that it is not actually part of the sutta. "If I — being asked by Vacchagotta the wanderer if there is no self — were to an...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:34 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition
Replies: 30
Views: 3501

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

Hi Zan, My post was an extension of your query: Do you have a reference for this statement either from the Pali Canon or traditional commentaries? I also took the opportunity to remind members about the purpose of the Classical forum, and your thread in particular. Posts on this thread need to be b...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:59 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition
Replies: 30
Views: 3501

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

annihilationism is the view that death is the annihilation of consciousness Do you have a reference for this statement either from the Pali Canon or traditional commentaries? This thread is about Parinibbana (or, more accurately, anupādisesanibbānadhātu , nibbāna element without residue. https://dh...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:28 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition - off topic posts
Replies: 20
Views: 1534

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.11.0.than.html#fnt-1 I was asking for a reference supporting exactly, and specifically this statement: annihilationism is the view that death is the annihilation of consciousness Do you have one? A Pali Canon or traditional commentary reference that sta...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition
Replies: 30
Views: 3501

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

I want to comment saying that as i understand it there is a type of consciousness in Nibbana that isnt of nature of 5 Aggregates, there is that non-self consciousness that is Seeing the Deathless at arising of Dhamma Eye. There are apparent problems in postulating cessation of consciousness therefo...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition - off topic posts
Replies: 20
Views: 1534

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

cappuccino wrote:annihilationism is the view that death is the annihilation of consciousness
Do you have a reference for this statement either from the Pali Canon or traditional commentaries?
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:23 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition
Replies: 30
Views: 3501

Re: Commentary

Do you think you could dig up things that, either directly or implicitly, present the commentarial traditions view on consciousness at the time of Parinibbana? From the Atthasālinī (Dhs-a. 325): the non-generation of further rūpa dhammas by the cuticitta of an arahant ("decease-consciousness of sai...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:22 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition
Replies: 30
Views: 3501

Re: Parinibbana according to the commentary tradition

If so, where is it said in the commentaries specifically? I tried doing a word search on the Visuddhimagga and the Vimuttimagga, since these are the only two commentary related things I have, but found only references to the Buddha's Parinibbana. As far as I know, The Venerable Mahasi Sayadaw was a...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:07 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Visuddhimagga Summary?
Replies: 22
Views: 4184

Re: Visuddhimagga Summary?

Question: Is there a respected summary in English of the Visuddhimagga? -- something like the "Comprehensive Manual of Abhidhamma" being such for the Abhidhamma Pitaka. (I know the Vism. is much shorter than the Abhidhamma Pitaka, but for now a couple of hundred pages is preferable to even 800. I a...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:45 am
Forum: Lounge (Archive)
Topic: Desert Island books religious/secular/mixture
Replies: 43
Views: 4358

Re: Desert Island books religious/secular/mixture

What five religious books would you bring to a desert island? Anguttara Nikaya Samyutta Nikaya Majjhima Nikaya Digha Nikaya Ittivutakka (The KN is a compilation of 15 books so had to choose one of my favorites from the KN) What five secular fiction books would you bring? Animal Farm by George Orwel...
by zan
Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:27 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?
Replies: 41
Views: 4471

Re: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?

mikenz66 wrote:OK, that's good. It's quite well organised, so it's easier to find reference to some particular thing than in the Visuddhimagga.

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Mike
Good to know, I appreciate it.