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by zan
Mon May 11, 2020 6:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Poll: What do you consider authoritative?
Replies: 39
Views: 1409

Re: Poll: What do you consider authoritative?

" I do not consider anything authoritative but my own interpretation, and use what I please from all sources." If "interpretation" was changed to "understanding", I could also vote. Thanks! I think you still could: interpretation: noun an explanation or way of explaining. Similar: meaning understan...
by zan
Mon May 11, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Poll: What do you consider authoritative?
Replies: 39
Views: 1409

Poll: What do you consider authoritative?

Please select one option.
by zan
Thu May 07, 2020 3:14 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Greetings, Over conceptualization and overthinking are detrimental to Dhamma study and rather than posit a bunch of questions like this I'd be better off meditating! :smile: More specifically, you'd do best to focus on establishing Right View, since all Right things flow from Right View, including ...
by zan
Thu May 07, 2020 3:11 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Greetings, I side with them over suttanta in almost all things Your choice. Staying at Savatthi. "Monks, there once was a time when the Dasarahas had a large drum called 'Summoner.' Whenever Summoner was split, the Dasarahas inserted another peg in it, until the time came when Summoner's original w...
by zan
Thu May 07, 2020 2:29 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Thanks for clarifying your position on Nagarjuna and the suttas in relation to this thread on the Madhyamaka. As to this issue between commentary and suttanta, being that I am in agreement with about 99% of the commentary tradition and that I side with them over suttanta in almost all things and fi...
by zan
Thu May 07, 2020 1:02 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Greetings Zan, By these measures, is it incorrect to maintain that objective form exists? For example do you see SN 12.15 as pointing out that it is incorrect to maintain this type of position? SN 12.15 certainly seems to make this point! It's not something you should think even bring to mind, neve...
by zan
Thu May 07, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Greetings Zan, Okay, so in your opinion, maintaining that objective form exists is incorrect according to the suttas and Madhyamaka? Incorrect by what measure? Incorrect by the measure of the suttas and Nagarjuna. By these measures, is it incorrect to maintain that objective form exists? For exampl...
by zan
Thu May 07, 2020 12:27 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Greetings Zan, You, personally, do you maintain that objective form exists? I am a follower of the Blessed One and rejoice in his words. Emphasis mine. Dwelling at Savatthi... Then Ven. Kaccayana Gotta approached the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down, sat to one side. As he was sitting...
by zan
Thu May 07, 2020 12:23 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Greetings zan, Would you agree that one can certainly maintain that objective form exists? People can maintain whatever they want, but when something is a noumenon, it cannot be also be a phenomenon... as such, a noumenon cannot be a dhamma, and the noumenon is what is called "beyond range". The Bl...
by zan
Wed May 06, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 3:37 am
Would you agree that, from the position of the suttas and Madhyamaka, one can certainly maintain that objective form exists?
by zan
Wed May 06, 2020 3:04 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Nagarjuna’s premises are basically false. DooDoot has shown the reason why. Could you link where Dootdoot showed the reason why? Was it one of my threads? DooDoot reads these posts. I’ll let him comment if he’s interested. The basic idea goes like this: all dependenrly originated Dhammas are emptin...
by zan
Wed May 06, 2020 3:00 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Ceisiwr wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 2:45 am
...the Buddha said that nama-rupa is sabbaṃ vitathamidanti
In which suttas?
by zan
Wed May 06, 2020 2:43 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Pondera wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:39 am


Nagarjuna’s premises are basically false. DooDoot has shown the reason why.

Could you link where Dootdoot showed the reason why? Was it one of my threads?
by zan
Tue May 05, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...
Replies: 98
Views: 2583

Re: So Nagarjuna purportedly demonstrated that arising and ceasing do not occur, ever...

Nagarjuna was getting hammered here on a daily basis for about a month. Who are the many and most who believe this? Yes there are some, but it is surely not a majority. Could you post links to these threads please? I might learn something. As to who are the many? I really don't know, just going off...