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by zan
Tue May 19, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 28
Views: 916

Re: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?

Am I missing something, or is that four-fold classification only explicit in the later texts such as the Abhidhammattha Sangaha? Everything that's classified as a paramattha dhamma in the Abhidhammatthasaṅgaha is also classified as such in the Atthakathās. So with regard to content there's no innov...
by zan
Tue May 19, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 28
Views: 916

Re: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?

Even in the Abhidhamma Pitaka itself the dhamma theory is not yet expressed as an explicit philosophical tenet; this comes only later, in the Commentaries. Nevertheless, though as yet implicit, the theory still comes into focus in its role as the regulating principle behind the Abhidhamma's more ev...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading
Replies: 92
Views: 2978

Re: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading

Ah. Thank you for clarifying. I believe he is referencing only Buddhists who agree with his statement. Even when he was writing there were surely those who demurred, and certainly they weren't being referenced. So nothing has changed in this respect. I was also just ribbing you a bit. :smile: My po...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading
Replies: 92
Views: 2978

Re: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading

Bruh, the scholar gets the final word? Sorry but I don't understand your question. Could you elaborate? Max Muller was a great scholar, sure, but the dude has been dead for 120 years and never showed any signs of a serious commitment to the Dhamma. Do you really think his impression of what "Buddhi...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading
Replies: 92
Views: 2978

Re: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading

The Buddhists themselves have no difficulty on that point. They consider the Atthakathás or commentaries as old as the canon itself. To us, such a supposition seems improbable, yet it has never been proved to be impossible. -Max Muller, The Dhammapada and Sutta Nipata Bruh, the scholar gets the fin...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: Forum Problem?
Replies: 65
Views: 2598

Re: Forum Problem?

Greetings, I tend to get round this by just Googling "Dhamma Wheel" followed by the topic or the key terms therein. It gets you there quicker if you are going to get there at all. This is true. Even better, pop your searches into Google Saffron and the results will be filtered even more back to kno...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: Forum Problem?
Replies: 65
Views: 2598

Re: Forum Problem?

I've not had the search function work in several years. I google my query followed by "site:dhammawheel.com" This searches only this site and so is the same function. I've been having issues with posts not going through after submitting for a long time and then double or triple posts. This has been ...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 28
Views: 916

Re: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?

Does the Abhidhamma pitaka support the commentarial understanding of the paramatthas then? Or is this a commentarial invention and not to be met with in, nor supported in the Abhidhamma at all? If we're approaching this issue emically, i.e., from the classical Theravada's own presuppositions, then ...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading
Replies: 92
Views: 2978

Re: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading

Greetings, There can't be a tradition that only applies scriptures, like the suttas, because rejecting the Theravada commentaries there has to be an interpretation of the suttas nevertheless. The question then is whether 'sutta only followers' actually are a tradition (what then is the conventional...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 1:55 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading
Replies: 92
Views: 2978

Re: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading

I think the issue stems from people thinking that merely accepting the suttas as authoritative equals Theravada, or that the suttas themselves are Theravada. So we have a ton of people saying they are Theravada and talking about Theravada, when in reality they mean they are suttanta. So then we have...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 1:44 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 28
Views: 916

Re: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?

Also, do you know where the four paramattha dhammas are mentioned in the Abhidhamma Pitaka? They are not mentioned by name in the Abhidhamma Piṭaka. Rather, the catuparamatthadhamma scheme is how the commentaries construe the material in the Abhidhamma Piṭaka as being organised. Fascinating! Does t...
by zan
Mon May 18, 2020 1:21 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 28
Views: 916

Re: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?

Also, do you know where the four paramattha dhammas are mentioned in the Abhidhamma Pitaka? I second this question. Not having read through the entire Abhidhamma Pitaka, I often struggle with statements that "The Abhidhamma says X". Often it turns out that the Commentaries, Visuddhimagga, and/or Co...
by zan
Sun May 17, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading
Replies: 92
Views: 2978

Re: Nagarjuna wants Mahayanists to fear śrāvakas as one who loves life fears beheading

I seem to dislike the use of terms like "orthodox Theravada" or "classical Theravada." Why not just call it "Theravada?" And maybe use "heterodox Theravada," "modern Theravada," "fringe Theravada," and so on to describe Theravadin offshoots? Ann Gleig (2013) has an essay titled "From Theravada to t...
by zan
Sun May 17, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 28
Views: 916

Re: 16 insight knowledges in the Visuddhimagga?

Chapter XVIII - nāmarūpapariccheda Chapter XIX - paccayapariggaha Chapter XX - sammasana Chapters XX - XXI - udayabbaya Chapter XXI - bhaṅga, bhayatupaṭṭhāna, ādīnava, nibbidā, muñcitukamyatā, paṭisaṅkhā, saṅkhārupekkhā, anuloma Chapter XXII - gotrabhū, magga, phala, paccavekkhaṇa Thank you Venerab...
by zan
Sun May 17, 2020 4:34 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Are the paramattha dhammas mentioned in the Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 10
Views: 357

Re: Are the paramattha dhammas mentioned in the Visuddhimagga?

Srilankaputra wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:28 pm
zan wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 3:53 pm
That image doesn't show. What page is it on? I have that book.
It's table 7.4 or the first table in the Compendium of the Whole.

Page 284, BPS, Third edition.
Thanks!