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by 5heaps
Mon May 13, 2013 11:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

Because every effect has a cause, there is a cause for you existing. Until that cause will be destroyed you will continue to exist even if not in the same physical body you have now. But some people would say the cause is entirely physical. "You" exist because of the reproductive process, which res...
by 5heaps
Mon May 13, 2013 11:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

There is no such thing as a logical proof for rebirth or kamma. Rebirth is logically possible but it isn't logically necessitated. So please, don't even attempt to use logic to prove rebirth, it just looks bad. :sage: dharmakirti and all of his commentators for 1500 years have given incontrovertibl...
by 5heaps
Mon May 13, 2013 11:46 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Difficulty with certain kind of conception of Kamma.
Replies: 30
Views: 3585

Re: Difficulty with certain kind of conception of Kamma.

This seems to make kamma result to be somewhat random if ...ALL pleasant/unpleasant resultant events that happen are results of past kamma. Well, this isn't said to be the case (it is actually refuted) so the question is a mere hypothetical, neh? Well, if we analyze what is taught - it seems like a...
by 5heaps
Sat May 11, 2013 6:50 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Trouble with Anapana
Replies: 16
Views: 3171

Re: Trouble with Anapana

the antidote is to bring to mind very clearly the benefits of meditation and why youre doing it I would like to attain Jhana meditation, or Samadhi as I first heard it called, so if this happens should I concentrate on the benefits that arise from this state? jhana is a perfected type of samadhi. y...
by 5heaps
Sat May 11, 2013 6:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

Saying "confident of the benefits" alongside "wracked with doubt" seems contradictory... Belief in rebirth provides an additional layer of meaning and purpose to our lives, motivates us to practice, and is an inextricable part of what the Buddha taught. The Buddha also taught the importance of crit...
by 5heaps
Fri May 10, 2013 8:26 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Trouble with Anapana
Replies: 16
Views: 3171

Re: Trouble with Anapana

Problem No.1 its a natural problem that comes up. basically youre getting bored with watching the breath. the antidote is to bring to mind very clearly the benefits of meditation and why youre doing it. then form a strong intention to stay on your meditation object and to pay attention to the momen...
by 5heaps
Wed May 08, 2013 1:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

Huh? Where did I say "momentary cause and effect"? I'll give you a clue... I didn't. so you have a presentation of dependent arising that is other than the multiple life presentation and other than the succession of moments presentation. what presentation are you then using? Non-time-delineated... ...
by 5heaps
Wed May 08, 2013 5:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

retrofuturist wrote:Huh? Where did I say "momentary cause and effect"? I'll give you a clue... I didn't.
so you have a presentation of dependent arising that is other than the multiple life presentation and other than the succession of moments presentation. what presentation are you then using?
by 5heaps
Wed May 08, 2013 4:58 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

Huh? How can either of the statements you refer to be called "nihilism" when neither are making any claim whatsoever about the validity or otherwise of rebirth? if you take the view that dependent arising as momentary cause and effect excludes there being an explanation of dependent arising over a ...
by 5heaps
Wed May 08, 2013 4:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

although they lack access to that they by definition know of past and future lives by virtue of having realizing the 3rd path. Do they? I thought they say, "jati is ended". What "jati" actually signifies (e.g. "ontological birth of a being" versus "phenomenological experience of identification" or ...
by 5heaps
Wed May 08, 2013 4:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

I don't know one way or the other about rebirth and find it pointless speculating about past and future lives. Therefore I set it aside in order to deal with the living of my present life and practice here and now. Excellent post, Aloka. Yes, it is. Taking refuge in the triple gem isn''t about blin...
by 5heaps
Wed May 08, 2013 4:22 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

A kammic explanation is redundant, because human aggression and cruelty are sufficient to explain such actions. Bad things happen to good people because violence, hatred and greed are common human afflictions. No further "metaphysical" explanation is needed. This is an important point. When a child...
by 5heaps
Tue May 07, 2013 3:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

However, that limitation does not prevent the "thorough understanding of paticcasamuppada and the sankharas imprinted on the mind" which is required to bring an end to dukkha. Ergo, direct knowledge of "the reality of past and future lives" is not essential to this pursuit. what youre talking about...
by 5heaps
Tue May 07, 2013 2:29 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

Hi Dennenappelmoes, I don't know one way or the other about rebirth and find it pointless speculating about past and future lives. Therefore I set it aside in order to deal with the living of my present life and practice here and now. with kind wishes, Aloka Excellent post, Aloka. is it? it doesnt ...
by 5heaps
Tue May 07, 2013 1:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6109
Views: 504372

Re: the great rebirth debate

I know that kamma (and thus, paticcasamuppada) holds true in terms of result in the present and in the future. That provides my direction in life. Whether there is or isn't rebirth has no impact whatsoever on the above knowledge and the fact that I will continue to live my life in accordance with t...