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by robertk
Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:46 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

[. I know that I have the part about samattha right. Ajahn feels that samattha cannot be intentionally developed, that only people with very high accumulations can develop it and that it sort of naturally arises or happens for them. I Kevin I would say that is a pretty big misrepresentation. If she...
by robertk
Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:25 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Kamma and its Ripening in the Abhidhamma
Replies: 62
Views: 19315

Re: Kamma and its Ripening in the Abhidhamma

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by robertk
Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:42 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

How then to develop that type of right concentartion that is particular to the sasana of the Buddha.. MAJJHIMA NIKAAYA III (5.7) Mahaasa.laayatanikasutta.m. 149. The Longer Discourse on the six spheres http://www.vipassana.info/149-mahasalayatanika-e.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false...
by robertk
Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:14 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

I think an important thing is to establish that there are various types of concentration that are samma –right, and if we can agree on this then to establish which are part of the noble eight-fold path leading out samsara. There are several suttas that give the 4 rupa jhanas as right concentration, ...
by robertk
Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:08 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Sujin Boriharnwanaket: teaching's diverge from Theravada?
Replies: 20
Views: 5489

Re: Sujin Boriharnwanaket: teaching's diverge from Theravada?

More about kamma and anatta here:

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by robertk
Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:01 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: anatta and cetana and conditions for right view
Replies: 141
Views: 31118

Re: anatta and cetana (will, intention): Kamma negated?

This post by Dhammanando answers someone who was puzzeled by Nina's mention of 'no control' in teh article about kamma I linked to above and can serve as a good starting point if anyone has queries or doubts... Re: Kamma and its Ripening in the Abhidhamma by Dhammanando » Hi Will, will: First she sa...
by robertk
Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:57 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: anatta and cetana and conditions for right view
Replies: 141
Views: 31118

anatta and cetana and conditions for right view

Matthew kosuta said that according to Sujin Boriharnwanaket, " As per standard abhidammic theory, she teaches “wholes” do not exist; they are concepts (pannatti) and anatta. Likewise, the paramattha dhammas of citta, cetasika, rupa, and nibbana are also said to be anatta as their impermanence overri...
by robertk
Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:35 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

The Visuddhimagga does say that: [So according to Classical Commentarial view, for wisdom one must have sufficient concentration and judging by the suggestions on impediments and unfourable places... It is a bit tougher than some think. . It has been pointed out again and again - that there are dif...
by robertk
Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:29 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

The Visuddhimagga does say that: it suggests that for most people it is not some momentary and easily to obtain concentration but something that may have to be developed in a retreat setting. . Please quote where exactly the Visuddhimagga says this . the Susima sutta the Buddha explained about sukk...
by robertk
Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:56 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Sujin Boriharnwanaket: teaching's diverge from Theravada?
Replies: 20
Views: 5489

Re: Sujin Boriharnwanaket: teaching's diverge from Theravada?

there seem to 3 points you are bringing up: 1. a Matthew kosuta (not sure who he is: is he the person you referred to on teh otehr thread who has 'an informed opinion"?)said that according to Sujin, "Cetana as a cetasika is said to only arise, as with all paramattha dhamma, due to “conditions and a...
by robertk
Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:42 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Sujin Boriharnwanaket: teaching's diverge from Theravada?
Replies: 20
Views: 5489

Re: Sujin Boriharnwanaket: teaching's diverge from Theravada?

[quote="tiltbillings. The use of techniques to cultivate concentration and mindfulness are skillful means, not the real practice, which is attending to what is seen, heard, sensed, and cognized with an attentive, concentrated mind. Are you saying she would reject that?[/quote] She would say the real...
by robertk
Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:34 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

Hi RobertK Check out Analayo's Satipatthana sutta commentary, pg 73, where he gives citations to suttas that do not mention jhana as part of right concentration. :anjali: as I don't have the said book that is hard. However, as my first posts also gave definitions where mundane jhana was explained a...
by robertk
Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:30 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

Just to clarify Tilt. Do you agree that the section I cited from the satipatthan sutta also includes Samma samadhi (urinating and defecating etc.). Or do you think those actions in the sutta are excluded from right concentration? I have already answered that, quite clearly: But the Buddha advocated...
by robertk
Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Some ideas about Dhamma starting to change
Replies: 96
Views: 9520

Re: Some ideas about Dhamma starting to change

tiltbillings wrote:
robertk wrote:. . . This is all assumed by buddhaghosa.
So, Buddhaghosa was not wrong in advocating kasina practice as a way of developing jhana.
It depends what you mean by advocating. He was speaking to adepts who had the ability to devlop correctly. I don't think he recommended kasina to all, did he?
by robertk
Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:01 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket
Replies: 156
Views: 19410

Re: Samma samadhi: Sujin Boriharnwanaket

Heres a description of the fourth jhana from Samadhanga Sutta: The Factors of Concentration AN 5.28: "Just as if a man were sitting wrapped from head to foot with a white cloth so that there would be no part of his body to which the white cloth did not extend; even so, the monk sits, permeating his...