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by Bundokji
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:28 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

There are many people who have self-view ( the sense of "me" ) but don't believe in Atman ( as eternal soul ), so clearly these are different things. My impression is that the suttas mostly deal with challenging self-view, eg not regarding the aggregates as "me" or "mine". I agree. Nihilists seem t...
by Bundokji
Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:30 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

What i am trying to say is that a "changing self" is an oxymoron and it is where deception seem to happen even if we experience the world in that way. I think we are muddling up two rather different things here. One is belief/disbelief in Atman, the other is "psychological" self view, the sense of ...
by Bundokji
Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

If you can't see how "my" or "self" implies unchanging, then could you explain the difference between Anatta and Atman? I think in Hinduism there is the assumption of a transcendent reality "beneath" mundane experience, ie Atman/Brahman. You could say that practice is aimed at "seeing through" the ...
by Bundokji
Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

Agreed. If there were no discernible trend, then liberation would not even be desirable! Yet Dinsdale's post raises an interesting problem. Experiences are not linked to a consistent experiencer, but nevertheless there is something that differentiates my experiences from your experiences; and that ...
by Bundokji
Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

Sorry, but I still don't see how "my" or "self" implies unchanging - it's about ownership, not consistency. If you can't see how "my" or "self" implies unchanging, then could you explain the difference between Anatta and Atman? Another way of looking at this is to reflect on whether ownership can b...
by Bundokji
Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

Dinsdale wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:36 am
Sorry, but I still don't see how "my" or "self" implies unchanging - it's about ownership, not consistency.
If you can't see how "my" or "self" implies unchanging, then could you explain the difference between Anatta and Atman?
by Bundokji
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

What exactly do you mean by "self"? My sense of self is continually shifting. Or do you mean that sati / awareness cannot be unchanging? There is a difference between what it means and how it is used. Literally, it means sameness or unchanging essence. Practically, it is a reference point to a cons...
by Bundokji
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

The perception of a changing phenomena gives rise to the perception of unchanging self, and the perception of unchanging self gives rise to the perception of changing phenomena. And yet we practice sati, which involves a quality of consistent awareness - "one who knows" as Ajahn Chah put it. Why do...
by Bundokji
Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: The Very Last Feast Of The Crocodiles
Replies: 3
Views: 146

The Very Last Feast Of The Crocodiles

As we no longer have the lounge, i am not sure where to post this. I personally used it for contemplation about the nature of existence, and whether it is animal or human, it does not make much difference. I find the underlying forces within beings to be very similar regardless of the form. https://...
by Bundokji
Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Determinism vs Dependent origination
Replies: 44
Views: 564

Re: Determinism vs Dependent origination

Perhaps the title of this thread should be "Severely Restricted Causal-Determinism vs DO"....to me that would make sense if finding a way to show similarity is desired....."Determnism vs DO" can only show a similarity to the extent that one wants to paint determinism with the brush of "cause and ef...
by Bundokji
Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Determinism vs Dependent origination
Replies: 44
Views: 564

Re: Determinism vs Dependent origination

I think you are changing the subject being discussed from the content of what I have said to the way in which I present it. Whether I provide causes for my opions I think is of no importance.....I could just be mistaken..... I think its importance is related to clear communication. Suppose i claim ...
by Bundokji
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Determinism vs Dependent origination
Replies: 44
Views: 564

Re: Determinism vs Dependent origination

That was not meant as a definition although I see that it clearly can be taken that way. That was meant to address a post where probability was conflated with determinism and I was trying to make a statement to clearly show that in my view this is not appropriate.....a sloppy reply on my part. I wa...
by Bundokji
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Determinism vs Dependent origination
Replies: 44
Views: 564

Re: Determinism vs Dependent origination

That was not meant as a definition although I see that it clearly can be taken that way. That was meant to address a post where probability was conflated with determinism and I was trying to make a statement to clearly show that in my view this is not appropriate.....a sloppy reply on my part. I wa...
by Bundokji
Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Determinism vs Dependent origination
Replies: 44
Views: 564

Re: Determinism vs Dependent origination

Determinism as I have defined it subsumes fatalism. I define determinism to mean what it says pretty much i.e. it is the belief that all things and actions are determined and that there is nothing which can cause a deviation from that determination. The two most common views as to what "makes" the ...
by Bundokji
Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 53
Views: 702

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

So, change is never directly experienced, but inferred. When you practice mindfulness of breathing, are you inferring the bodily sensations involved? When you practice mindfulness of breathing, you are watching the movement of the mind. What is the movement of the mind? The perception of a changing...