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by thepea
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gotama was first awakened as a sotapanna then straight to arhat
Replies: 12
Views: 159

Re: Gotama was first awakened as a sotapanna then straight to arhat

I believe so.
It seems he found the stream got a taste and then set out removing the remaining defilements and became an Arahat. Skipping the middle stages.
by thepea
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)
Replies: 49
Views: 969

Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

cappuccino wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:15 am
thepea wrote: Seems like a hangover is a slighter effect than insanity.
many intoxicate themselves, & mental illness is widespread

mental illness is like being intoxicated

karma is very logical
Not quite.
by thepea
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there a being?
Replies: 2
Views: 80

Re: Is there a being?

Yes.
by thepea
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)
Replies: 49
Views: 969

Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

cappuccino wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:47 pm
The slightest of all the results coming from drinking fermented & distilled liquors is that, when one becomes a human being, it leads to mental derangement.

Vipaka Sutta: Results
Is that why pregnant women try not to drink?

Seems like a hangover is slighter effect than insanity.
by thepea
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)
Replies: 49
Views: 969

Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

I am sorry you think that I am dodging the question. This is my last offer - A sotapanna , seeing the harm caused by taking intoxicants would never themselves break the 5th precept and seeing the harm caused - which ordinary people don't see, would never encourage anyone else to harm themselves, an...
by thepea
Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)
Replies: 49
Views: 969

Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

The fifth precept is to abstain from intoxicants which cloud the mind. Knowing and abstaining oneself - knowing the harm caused by intoxicants, one would never encourage another to drink alcohol You are dodging the question. You can follow the fifth precept yourself, but where is the harm in remain...
by thepea
Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones
Replies: 13
Views: 259

Re: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones

Yes but I said almost perfect, maybe no need to bone pick at the exact definition seeing as it's only sceptical anyway. Highly refined levels of precept keeping. And have you noticed not one of the 5 precepts is purely thought based? There is clearly a reason for that. The Christian view of once a ...
by thepea
Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones
Replies: 13
Views: 259

Re: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones

I tend to agree that its probably a highly tuned 5 precepts Can you define highly tuned 5 precepts? The 4th precept taken as divisive, harsh, false speech and gossip. As The Buddha mentioned a few times throughout And maybe the way they are held, so done almost perfectly but without clinging to the...
by thepea
Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Enjoying without clinging?
Replies: 12
Views: 249

Re: Enjoying without clinging?

SarathW wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:35 am
No.
Buddha allowed lay people to have intercourse with the legal partner. (wife)
What he prohibited laypeople is the breaking of the third precept.
Sorry Sarath but that is incorrect.
by thepea
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Enjoying without clinging?
Replies: 12
Views: 249

Re: Enjoying without clinging?

SarathW wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:22 am
I can recall that there is a Sutta where a monk argued that you can touch a woman or perhaps have intercourse without clinging to pleasure or something like that.
Buddha Rebucke the monk.
So Buddha says not to touch or pleasure the wife.
Got it👍👍
by thepea
Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones
Replies: 13
Views: 259

Re: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones

anthbrown84 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:52 pm
I tend to agree that its probably a highly tuned 5 precepts
Can you define highly tuned 5 precepts?
by thepea
Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)
Replies: 49
Views: 969

Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

theinngu32 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:27 pm
Yes they can have friends who drink alcohol and a lay person who is a Sotapanna could go out for a meal - but they wouldn't break their precepts …….
How is buying a friend a glass of wine at dinner a violation of precepts?
by thepea
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)
Replies: 49
Views: 969

Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

They probably wouldn't get into that situation in the first place - but always their sense of morality comes first - is unbreakable and to them it wouldn't be awkward …… they would also see the harm caused to themselves by the ones drinking alcohol and no way could they cause anyone to suffer more ...
by thepea
Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)
Replies: 49
Views: 969

Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

my understanding of a Sotapanna - is one who is unable to break the 5 precepts - so drinking alcohol or buying alcohol for others wouldn't apply.....also there are different levels of Sotappanas ……. So if an SP takes a group out to dinner and his/her guests order a beverage which contains alcohol, ...
by thepea
Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones
Replies: 13
Views: 259

Re: Ethical conduct loved by the nobles ones

It’s simply any thoughts or conduct that produces sankharas not of the states of deprevation . Not even close to perfect morality.