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by thepea
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

would you want the next birth? if this was enough to kill yourself about Isn’t that the confusion to come out of? We don’t accept the present moment as it is, we always want the future or past. The one killing them self can’t live with things as they are, hoping it will be better on the other side....
by thepea
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

If you succeed your dead, why is it a concern about precept? It is not only about the death, it is about the rebirth as well. Correct, that is the basis of this thread. But how do precepts factor in to this? You commit suicide your dead, doesn’t matter if a precept is broken it’s the mental state w...
by thepea
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

If suicide is not a breach of the first precept, why then does one supposedly go to hell for it? This is a popular folk belief in Buddhist countries, not a teaching found in any Buddhist texts. Thank you, Bhante for clarifying this. In your opinion, is suicide breaking the precept? If you succeed y...
by thepea
Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

cappuccino wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:56 am
thepea wrote: Is what this monk says about suicide in line with Buddha’s teachings?
why don't you just read the scriptures
They bore the crap out of me.
by thepea
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

OWEG wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:06 pm
Is what this monk says about suicide in line with Buddha’s teachings?
by thepea
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Vipassana vs Samadhi? Confusion regarding difference
Replies: 9
Views: 217

Re: Vipassana vs Samadhi? Confusion regarding difference

The object of samadhi is the difference between insight arising.
by thepea
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

1. My contention is regarding teaching the dhamma while potentially being confused. 2. My premise is that practicing dhamma correctly one would come out of this heavy suicidal kamma quite quickly. 3. Practice a lifetime incorrectly and you haven’t taken a step. 1. I saw a number of Samahitas Videos...
by thepea
Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

The source I quoted previously states unclearly (or wrongly) about suicide and breach of first precept, regarding theravada. In paramattha dipani (Ledi Sayadaw's pali work translated into Myanmar language), ven. Ledi clearly stated that suicide is not breach of first precept. Anyway, it is not a de...
by thepea
Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

Let’s not get confused here, I’m not saying that goenka students are immune from suicide. I’m sure there are plenty of students sitting course after course who are confused about dhamma for one reason or another, the path is full of pitfalls. My contention is regarding teaching the dhamma while pote...
by thepea
Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

In that sense I can understand that for many people, inclusive myself, it might be very confusing that having the strongest medicine to get out of suffering, the Dhamma, and also applying it in daily life, and still something like that can happen. But it can and we have to face it. Maybe I also hav...
by thepea
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

alfa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:06 am
thepea wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:33 pm
alfa wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:35 am


What's a terminally ill person supposed to do? :shrug:
Die.
That's what euthanasia accomplishes. :shrug:
Die well.
by thepea
Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

alfa wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:35 am
cappuccino wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:16 pm
acceptance of euthanasia will lead to the worst karma


yet many will argue in favor of euthanasia


better safe than very sorry
What's a terminally ill person supposed to do? :shrug:
Die.
by thepea
Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:29 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

Of course he would. Why would you think otherwise? No , but doctor following instructions as a job wasn't intend to kill would the kamma be lesser ? I don't accept your premise. A doctor performing euthanasia does have the intention to kill, even if he's just following orders. The best that can be ...
by thepea
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

cappuccino wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:50 am
thepea wrote: This is a failure at the most basic sense, for anyone practicing the dhamma.
but it only matters if you fail
That’s not the discussion.
by thepea
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:56 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 521
Views: 12273

Re: Monastics and suicide

Greetings thepea, :rules: If you disagree with people's ideas, critique the ideas... not the person. Your ad-hominem argumentation is low value, adding nothing to the conversation. Kind regards. Metta, Paul. :) What is wrong with the comment made? I asked a valid question based on my experience wit...