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by Dmytro
Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:14 pm
Forum: Pali
Topic: Pali Term: Ekaggatā
Replies: 10
Views: 3346

Re: Pali Term: Ekaggatā

"Tattha cittassa ekaggatāti nānārammaṇavikkhepābhāvato ekaṃ ārammaṇaṃ aggaṃ uttamaṃ assāti ekaggo, ekaggassa bhāvo ekaggatā." Patisambhidamagga-Atthakatha 1.230 "Here the 'ekaggatā' of the mind is the state (bhāvo) when one thing is predominant (ekaggo). One thing is predominant when...
by Dmytro
Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:58 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Can We Hear Sound in Jhāna?
Replies: 90
Views: 5125

Re: Can We Hear Sound in Jhāna?

There's an excellent article by Ven. Thanissaro Bhikkhu:

Silence Isn’t Mandatory
SENSORY PERCEPTION IN THE JHĀNAS

http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writ ... datory.pdf
by Dmytro
Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: Pali
Topic: The Buddha spoke pali by Stefan Karpik
Replies: 11
Views: 935

Re: The Buddha spoke pali by Stefan Karpik

Bryan Levman wrote: Standard Epigraphic Prakrit is not that much different from standard Pāli, as Norman has pointed out. The Oldest Pali manuscript is Pali and dates to around the 9th century AD, approx. 1000 years older than the earliest epigraphic records. There are words we don’t quite understan...
by Dmytro
Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:31 am
Forum: Pali
Topic: The Buddha spoke pali by Stefan Karpik
Replies: 11
Views: 935

Re: The Buddha spoke pali by Stefan Karpik

Interestingly Pāli didn't develop out of Sanskrit either. It has it's roots in the vedic language. "Pāli as a MIA language is different from Sanskrit not so much with regard to the time of its origin than as to its dialectal base, since a number of its morphological and lexical features betray...
by Dmytro
Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

Since this interesting discussion went into questions of Pali origin and development, I continue it at:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=26426&p=417423#p417423
by Dmytro
Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: Pali
Topic: The Buddha spoke pali by Stefan Karpik
Replies: 11
Views: 935

Re: The Buddha spoke pali by Stefan Karpik

In continuation of discussion https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=28943 , I'd like to contribute relevant quotes from relatively recent discussions: The problem with discussions of the language the Buddha spoke is that people do not define their terms. It is perfectly possible that the ...
by Dmytro
Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:11 pm
Forum: Pali
Topic: Pronunciation: Tsun-Kyan-Kse
Replies: 1
Views: 35

Re: Pronunciation: Tsun-Kyan-Kse

Hi,

No, it's not Pali, and not related to Theravada Buddhism.
by Dmytro
Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

At the time of the Buddha such lingua franca was Magadhi (Pali). I am not necessarily in disagreement with you, but I think you are setting a bit of a double standard here. It's a matter of definitions. Yes, more precise terms would solve the ambiguity. On one hand, lingua franca was not a common M...
by Dmytro
Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:30 am
Forum: Pali
Topic: Pali Term: Nimitta
Replies: 58
Views: 9560

Re: Pali Term: Nimitta



Thank you, Bhante!

One can also access this article by Laurence Cox at http://www.globalbuddhism.org/jgb/index ... sue/view/6
by Dmytro
Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: Pali
Topic: Pali Term: Nimitta
Replies: 58
Views: 9560

Re: Pali Term: Nimitta

Pecularities of borān kammaṭṭhāna literature can provide valuable insights about the evolution of meaning of Pali terms. These texts are interesting in what they don't contain, - there's no abstract methodology, - just the specific actions to be performed step-by-step. "Once the practitioner ha...
by Dmytro
Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

rajitha7 wrote:How is Brahmi related to Prākrit/Sanskrit ?


There's a 2nd century BCE Brahmi inscription in Hathigumpha, the language of which may be called Pali:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathigumpha_inscription
http://dhamma.ru/paali/MrGautamMore.html
by Dmytro
Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

One particular narrative that I have inherited argues that the literature that we now call "Pāli-literature" was once in a series of closely-related Prākrits, which were standardized and harmonized during the formation of the "Pāli Canon". There was a lot of local dialects, and ...
by Dmytro
Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:22 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

However, a Sinhalese commentary still exists, which is pure . It was rendered into the Sinhalese tongue by the learned Mahinda with proper regard for the way of commenting that was handed down by the three Councils as taught by the Enlightened One and inculcated by Sáriputta and others. Go there, a...
by Dmytro
Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

I would suggest giving the sources in question a cursory read. Thank you, I have read them. They indeed bear some tangential relation to the discussed statement. To understand this we need to know that the Pāli language is a close relative of the Sanskrit language, in which we find the parallel ter...
by Dmytro
Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

Caodemarte wrote:I have given you the citations In my note which you have omitted from your quote.


Would you be so kind to explain the connection of these citations with your statement?
by Dmytro
Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

I answered your question ad given citations and links (when available) directly below the quoted material. I am sure you can find others. Evidently you can't substantiate your statement. Well, then thank you for another great example of a myth: Theravada histories and claims are that it derived fro...
by Dmytro
Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

As for the Sanskrit - the key question is, - could it be used at the time of Mahasanghika split? And the answer is no, as evidenced by inscriptions, - "Sanskrit began to come into epigraphic use only in the first century B.C." https://books.google.com/books?id=XYrG07qQDxkC&pg=PA86&...
by Dmytro
Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:39 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

Theravada histories and claims are that it derived from a sect that broke away from a sect that broke away from this faction (or "dissolved into" rather than "break away") Why do you think so? The Theravada tradition holds that after the Third Council, the Vibhajjavādins evolved...
by Dmytro
Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The myth of "Sthaviravada"
Replies: 50
Views: 798

Re: The myth of "Sthaviravada"

Scholars, including Theravadin scholars, don't accept the Dipavamsa as having any historical value as it is clearly a propgandistic revision and re-telling of history for a specific political point. They do accept actual historical records. I also accept historical records. Let's discuss them inste...

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