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by Goofaholix
Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:26 pm
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: How to stop associating yourself with your thoughts?
Replies: 12
Views: 125

Re: How to stop associating yourself with your thoughts?

nichiren-123 wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:46 pm
Yes, but im in the process of realising that the origin of these thoughts is not 'me', that they just 'happen'.
It sounds like you are on the right track then, just keep doing that, keep observing thought objectively noting it's impermanent and uncontrolled nature. It's the work of a lifetime.
by Goofaholix
Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 490

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

I bite something. It is a pleasant feeling. It has the flavor of an apple. It has the texture of an apple. It has the aroma of an apple. It is an apple. ......would "it is an apple" be the perception or would a sort of summary "I have bitten into an apple" be the perception" or what? chownah I thin...
by Goofaholix
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 490

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

actually brain studies could show the perception triggers feelings : because of perception, there are mechanism in brain associated to endorphine or others. I think here you are relying on the english word perception, rather than the pali word sanna (usually translated as perception). How you've us...
by Goofaholix
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 490

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

chownah wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:41 am
Do you think that there are these three stages?....and if so which one is perception etc.?
More like 3 components to the experience, perception is the component the recognises and labels the experience.
by Goofaholix
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 490

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

So feeling tone is something like a disposition you already have. Someone who loves apples has a pleasant disposition towards apples. When he comes into contact with the apple he experiences a pleasant feeling tone and the mind then attempts to attribute meaning to the feeling tone. So it's like a ...
by Goofaholix
Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 490

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

But doesn't your perception first have to identify the object let's say an apple, as an apple before a feeling can arise? Not necessarily, feeling tone is more on an animal instinct level. Whereas "It's an apple" is just a concept about an experience,whether you are drawn towards that experience or...
by Goofaholix
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 490

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

Again, I'm talking about perceptions, not feelings. Pleasant and Unpleasant does not relate to perception (sanna), it relates to feeling tone (vedana). Feeling tone is an automatic response to a stimulus, this automatic response can colour our perception of the experience. So it's feeling then perc...
by Goofaholix
Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 490

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

I'm not sure that an object can remain independently desirable or undesirable. For an object to be desirable for example, it needs to be perceived as desirable. This perception is created in the mind. The object is really neither desirable nor non-desirable. You are right of course, but this is all...
by Goofaholix
Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:28 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: ordaining in theravada and zen?
Replies: 14
Views: 298

Re: ordaining in theravada and zen?

When I was practicing at Shwe oo min I saw several Mahayana monks taking temporary (presumably just for the period of their stay) ordination in Theravada, mostly Vietnamese zen monks.
by Goofaholix
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?
Replies: 68
Views: 1151

Re: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?

Do they try to make merit and hope for a better rebirth? Then, yes, they are in effect trying to verify things for themselves. Clearly we have a different understanding of what verifying for oneselves entails, the keyword in your sentence is hope, how does hope and verification correlate? If anythi...
by Goofaholix
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?
Replies: 68
Views: 1151

Re: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?

In contrast, in Buddhism, and not just in the modern variations for scientific skeptics, the situation is, at least on principle, quite different. A Buddhist, on principle, does try to know things for himself, does try to verify the religious tenets. I think you'll find that 150 years ago this wasn...
by Goofaholix
Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?
Replies: 68
Views: 1151

Re: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?

My perception of theravada is that it if a path of practice and the epitome of the practice is the monastic (symbolically). The path of practice for the lay person is a path of action (dana, sila, bhavana) and relationship (with the monastic sangha). Take out the bhavana for the lay person and that...
by Goofaholix
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?
Replies: 68
Views: 1151

Re: Who are the (modern) protestant Buddhists?

Some names, please? As I understand it the movement characterised as "Protestant Buddhism" came about for much the same reasons as protestant christianity, as a laypersons revival and freedom from the clergy as the only authority attitude that had built up over centuries. It is characterised by lay...
by Goofaholix
Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mind moments
Replies: 28
Views: 648

Re: Mind moments

Many practitioners report this sort of experience and perhaps that's how the mind-moment description developed (though how they got to billions of moments per second is a mystery to me...). It's relatively late development, somewhere between the Abhidhamma and the Commentaries. Yes, I can appreciat...
by Goofaholix
Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mind moments
Replies: 28
Views: 648

Re: Mind moments

As a practice it's quite simple, it's most easily observed when observing change. For example if you are mindfully observing the movement of your arm, depending on how sensitive the mind is sometimes you observe it as one fluid movement, sometimes like a series of micro movements like looking at a m...
by Goofaholix
Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Tips for dealing with intrusive noise when practicing mindfulness?
Replies: 4
Views: 98

Re: Tips for dealing with intrusive noise when practicing mindfulness?

Mindfulness practice is about attending to whatever is happening here and now, it's not about shutting out some experiences and concentrating on others, it sounds like you are doing concentration practice not mindfulness practice. With mindfulness practice you should notice that you are hearing, not...
by Goofaholix
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Spontaneous sitting
Replies: 4
Views: 217

Re: Spontaneous sitting

In Theravadin practice mindfulness is supposed to be continuous in all postures and activities, sitting, walking, standing, lying down. It's an ideal we practice towards, special conditions are not required unless one wants to deepen concentration. In my limited experience Zen also encourages this j...
by Goofaholix
Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2132
Views: 71340

Re: Nirvana is a Transcendent Reality

The point of the word transcendent is that it transcends something, what does it transcend? Clearly dukkha and craving for a start, the Zen blog says "transcendent refers to that which is beyond ordinary experience and scientific explanation"... that seams reasonable. The reality, the point of the w...
by Goofaholix
Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:14 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Is death the alternative to alms begging? Right livelihood
Replies: 8
Views: 319

Re: Is death the alternative to alms begging? Right livelihood

Right livelihood is simply the abandonment of wrong livelihood. Looking at the descriptions of wrong livelihood below I don't think it's relevant to your question. At the Buddha's time there was already an established of mendicant spiritual "seekers", so the Buddha just leveraged that tradition. Mos...
by Goofaholix
Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is "mind"?
Replies: 41
Views: 1356

Re: What is "mind"?

I’ll make an attempt… 1. Any processes that are mental in nature as opposed to physical in nature. 2. The simplest analogy is that the brain is hardware and the mind is software. I think probably more correct that “mind” is an umbrella term for all mental processes, it’s about processes not a thing....