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by mahat
Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:34 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?
Replies: 19
Views: 2758

Re: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutt

If anything requiring killing was wrong livelihood, than why wasn't farming banned too? No. 11. LAKKHAṆA-JĀTAKA. Towards harvest-time in Magadha, when the crops stand thick in the fields, it is dangerous for the deer in the forests round. Anxious to kill the creatures that devour their crops, the p...
by mahat
Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:32 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?
Replies: 19
Views: 2758

Re: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutt

It's not about meat, it's lust. This includes lust for eating meat which is something you are clearly demonstrating with your "meatism". :pig: Now you are assuming I eat meat for lust. You know me? I and millions of others eat meat for nutrition. Now you will say I love alcohol because I say The Bo...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:52 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?
Replies: 19
Views: 2758

Re: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutt

If anything requiring killing was wrong livelihood, than why wasn't farming banned too? No. 11. LAKKHAṆA-JĀTAKA. Towards harvest-time in Magadha, when the crops stand thick in the fields, it is dangerous for the deer in the forests round. Anxious to kill the creatures that devour their crops, the pe...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:37 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?
Replies: 19
Views: 2758

Re: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutt

Yes, and incorrectly translated in English. Mansa means flesh, if you read the Silavimamsa Jataka, Buddha defines Lust as "Mansa". If you can't find it, I'll post it. So Mamsa Vanijja means flesh trade--- which is prostitution, not purchasing your burger from McDonalds. :smile: maṃsa does not mean ...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:12 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4714
Views: 339360

Re: the great vegetarian debate

"Very good, Anuradha. Very good. Both formerly & now, it is only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress." Are you saying civilization does not come under stress? Buddhism is about saving civilization by saving mankind from stress and increasing his/her clarity of vision to make more Dh...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:08 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4714
Views: 339360

Re: the great vegetarian debate

Again, there are those who follow the cult of vegetarianism/veganism and there are those who follow Buddhism. Lord Buddha clearly saw that our bodies would not thrive on a plant based diet since our digestive system is poor we needed to allow vegetarian animals to digest the food and started raisin...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:23 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?
Replies: 19
Views: 2758

Re: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutt

so mahat you mean the sutta is an allegory and doesn't speak of actual types of commerce? Yes, and incorrectly translated in English. Mansa means flesh, if you read the Silavimamsa Jataka, Buddha defines Lust as "Mansa". If you can't find it, I'll post it. So Mamsa Vanijja means flesh trade--- whic...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:18 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?
Replies: 19
Views: 2758

Re: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutt

Christians believe that man has concluded a pact with God which somehow is a promise that if man keeps the Ten Commandments man will be fine after death. And if you don't manage there is still Divine Grace. Lord Buddha never offered such a deal to his followers. He didn't say that if you keep Five ...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Non Violence, self defence and defence of others
Replies: 43
Views: 2909

Re: Non Violence, self defence and defence of others

Buddha teaches to protect in this world and the next: Buddha understands that Dhamma takes time to manifest after cultivation. He did advise on how to defend yourself and Buddhism is about clarity of vision which can only come about through righteousness and wisdom -- not pacifism, pacifism is anoth...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4714
Views: 339360

Re: the great vegetarian debate

all the great civilizations were built by nonVegetarians not sure diet has anything to do with sophistication of a civilization, it there's causality between them, i believe it's rather reversed either way the Buddha didn't teach how to build great civilization, but stress and its cessation Yes, he...
by mahat
Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:43 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4714
Views: 339360

Re: the great vegetarian debate

Again, there are those who follow the cult of vegetarianism/veganism and there are those who follow Buddhism. Lord Buddha clearly saw that our bodies would not thrive on a plant based diet since our digestive system is poor we needed to allow vegetarian animals to digest the food and started raising...
by mahat
Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:36 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4714
Views: 339360

Re: the great vegetarian debate

..... There have been several cases of vegans being responsible for killing their baby through malnutrition! Vegans were arrested. Please give verifiable links. Also, give links to balance view that some meat-eaters were also responsible for ill-health of children. It's only fair... Like this one o...
by mahat
Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:11 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4714
Views: 339360

Re: the great vegetarian debate

Again, yes anyone with wrong view will go to hell and those who eat any food in lust and/or greed as well. I don't eat meat for taste, I eat it for nutrition and my concern is human nutrition. I have raised children, they are finicky as heck. To deny them variety in food so they don't suffer from ma...
by mahat
Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:46 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4714
Views: 339360

Re: the great vegetarian debate

its people like you that give meat eaters a bad name, devadattu ended up becoming an arahant according to another poster, don't know if that's true, any way vegetarianism is a moral decision, just not part of your morality, if you want to accumulate your karma the way you want that's your business,...
by mahat
Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:35 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?
Replies: 19
Views: 2758

Wrong Livelihood - incorrect Translation of Vanijja Sutta?

The following has been translated in English, and I think it is incorrect: "Monks, a lay follower should not engage in five types of business. Which five? Business in weapons, business in human beings, business in meat, business in intoxicants, and business in poison. Now the Pali has: Vanijja Sutam...