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by diptych4
Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:36 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.
Replies: 36
Views: 2361

Re: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.

All very rational I'm sure, but as Edward Conze tirelessly pointed out, anyone who fondly imagines Buddhism - including Theravadin meditation practice - to be in accordance with sweet reason and devoid of 'magical thinking' will be in for a rude awakening. There's a lot of it about, I'm afraid. Happ...
by diptych4
Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.
Replies: 36
Views: 2361

Re: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.

I'm not, however, interested in proving it wrong. Nor am I interested in proving wrong any claims to the effect that the locations of the four sites have been misidentified. As I understand the above sutta, the beneficial effect of pilgrimage to these sites arises from the faith that the pilgrims b...
by diptych4
Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:45 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.
Replies: 36
Views: 2361

Re: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.

Oh dear. Seems that my raising doubts about three critical Buddhist pilgrimage sites has called into question not only my own Buddhism, but the importance of Buddhist pilgrimages also. Well just for the record, in 1960 I commenced two years intensive, non-stop satipatthana applied to the 32 Parts of...
by diptych4
Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.
Replies: 36
Views: 2361

Re: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.

On revisiting this site, I see that most of the replies spectacularly miss at least one of the points that I was making. Just for the record I believe that the Buddha DID exist, and that the Pali Canon contains an accurate record of his teachings. I also believe that the two great Chinese pilgrims v...
by diptych4
Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?
Replies: 23
Views: 17234

Re: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?

piotr wrote:Hi,

So it seems that recent National Geographic documentary was a 40 min. advertisment of the auction? :twisted:
That's about the size of it , though there are also signs that Uncle Sam might be contemplating their use as diplomatic /political pawns also. Watch this space.
by diptych4
Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:08 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Post Mortem Survival in the Corpse as a Corpse
Replies: 44
Views: 2501

Re: Post Mortem Survival in the Corpse as a Corpse

Ah yes, death. The Big One. IT. Well, some of the evidence from NDE sources - and in particular, those which have followed CLINICAL death, carefully attested to by physicians - points pretty convincingly towards post-mortem survival (and even that great sceptic, A. J. Ayer, thought so too, following...
by diptych4
Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.
Replies: 36
Views: 2361

Re: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.

So what's wrong with raising doubts with Buddhists? And judging by the acerbity of some of the responses, it looks like I might just be disturbing a few moths, and I'll happily settle for that.
by diptych4
Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:15 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.
Replies: 36
Views: 2361

Lumbini, Kapilavastu, Kusinara sites now in doubt.

The sites of the Buddha's birth (Lumbini) hometown (Kapilavastu) and death (Kusinara) have now been seriously called into question: see http://www.lumkap.org.uk for the details. Does this matter? Well yes, I believe it does. Stephen Batchelor and others have remarked that Buddhism (and the Buddha) h...
by diptych4
Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:15 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

In commenting on my latest posting, Anagarika asks (above) 'Was the Buddha's death a suicide? Clearly not, as all of the Sutta and analytical evidence proves' and he cites the rest of Mettanando's article in support of this conclusion. Mettanando's article, however, both tactfully and conspicuously ...
by diptych4
Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:19 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

The Sutta states that as the Buddha entered the death-state he ranged through all the jhanas and immaterial spheres, and finally exited through the fourth jhana (an event, I am reliably informed, which holds a secret of great spiritual significance). There would certainly appear to be external signs...
by diptych4
Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:21 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

It was a helpful tip to those who don't wish to waste their time arguing about nothing of any benefit. If someone makes a silly comment about Buddha being crochety only a crochety old man would take the bait. I repeat, refute it. If no less a scholar than Vallee-Poussin refers to the Buddha's 'volu...
by diptych4
Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:41 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote::redherring:
Hip, but unhelpful. Now refute it.
by diptych4
Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:44 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

Nobody, ever, appears to have commented upon the fact that the details of the Buddha's final demise, as recorded in the Mahaparinibbana Sutta, strike right at the very heart of Buddhism itself. I'm guessing that the paucity of commentary on this thesis derives from the lack of evidence for such a c...
by diptych4
Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:15 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

To answer the second part of your question, yes it delivers. Buddhist practice has made me more content in my own life day to day and i know others who feel likewise about it. It isnt about being in some kind of trance periodically, practice makes you happier and more centered day to day, moment to...
by diptych4
Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:39 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

The Sutta reveals a crotchety old man... Crotchety means "irritable". Would you like to point out where the sutta describes the Buddha as irritated? Well, he gets pretty teed off with Upavana for standing in front of him on his deathbed - who wouldn't? - and despite Ananda's pleas, orders him away....
by diptych4
Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:47 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

Re: The Buddha's suicide

I think you bring up some interesting points. It is correct to say that dukkha is not fully ended until anupādisesa nibbāna, as far as I can see. Until then: I don't delight in death, don't delight in living. I await my time like a worker his wage. - Thag 14.1 "Monks, there are these three kinds of...
by diptych4
Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:19 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: The Buddha's suicide
Replies: 104
Views: 5621

The Buddha's suicide

The ‘Voluntary’ Death of the Buddha - So Does Buddhism Deliver? Nobody, ever, appears to have commented upon the fact that the details of the Buddha's final demise, as recorded in the Mahaparinibbana Sutta, strike right at the very heart of Buddhism itself. The Sutta reveals a crotchety old man who...
by diptych4
Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:15 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?
Replies: 23
Views: 17234

Re: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?

What with all this shilly-shallying among the experts – who can’t even agree on whether this find is authentic, never mind its dating – it’s now perfectly obvious that the only way to resolve this critical issue is to subject the finds themselves to rigorous scientific testing. The Siamese received ...
by diptych4
Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?
Replies: 23
Views: 17234

Re: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?

It should be noted that despite the attempt of Rhys Davids (JRAS, 1901) to discredit the well-known story of Asoka rifling the original eight stupas to disperse their Buddha-relics in stupas throughout India, this story would nevertheless appear to gain full support from the accounts of the two earl...
by diptych4
Fri May 24, 2013 12:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?
Replies: 23
Views: 17234

Re: Buddha's Bones and Piprahwa Jewels - auction?

‘The great tragedy of Science : the slaying of a beautiful theory by an ugly fact’ (T. H. Huxley). The ugly fact here is that before Peppe officially announced his Piprahwa claims in 1898, he had been in touch with the notorious forger and cheat Dr Fuhrer who was excavating nearby. Fuhrer had then b...