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by vinasp
Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:00 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Could someone please help me out here? This sutta has thrown me into confusion.
Replies: 28
Views: 998

Re: Could someone please help me out here? This sutta has thrown me into confusion.

Hi Spiny, Quote: - "I don't think it's about cessation of the world, it's more about detachment ..." Of course the actual world does not cease. The question is why they call the non awakened state of mind 'the world'? I think that it is because the world is everything that we are clinging to, all th...
by vinasp
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Other than distinction between everything and Nibbana, is Nikaya Buddhism monistic?
Replies: 14
Views: 439

Re: Other than distinction between everything and Nibbana, is Nikaya Buddhism monistic?

Hi everyone, The idea that the aggregates are not individual is found in the Abhidhamma and the Commentaries. For example, Bhikkhu Bodhi said in a 1976 paper: "There is actually no such thing as "one's own aggregates" or "the aggregates of others", differently classifiable according to the perspecti...
by vinasp
Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Other than distinction between everything and Nibbana, is Nikaya Buddhism monistic?
Replies: 14
Views: 439

Re: Other than distinction between everything and Nibbana, is Nikaya Buddhism monistic?

Hi zan, "The Blessed One said, "Now what, monks, are the five aggregates? "Whatever form is past, future, or present; internal or external; blatant or subtle; common or sublime; far or near: That is called the form aggregate." -SN 22.48" It seems that the form aggregate is intended to include all fo...
by vinasp
Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:48 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Could someone please help me out here? This sutta has thrown me into confusion.
Replies: 28
Views: 998

Re: Could someone please help me out here? This sutta has thrown me into confusion.

Hi zan, The 'world' (loka) sometimes seems to mean external things, but more often seems to mean the unawakened state of mind. Consider this passage from AN 4.23 “Bhikkhus, the Tathāgata has fully awakened to the world; the Tathāgata is detached from the world. The Tathāgata has fully awakened to th...
by vinasp
Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Could someone please help me out here? This sutta has thrown me into confusion.
Replies: 28
Views: 998

Re: Could someone please help me out here? This sutta has thrown me into confusion.

Hi zan, Quote: "... However in this sutta it is listed as constructing and conditioning all of the other aggregates and itself as well, so all aggregates are listed separately and singly and then volitional formations contains all aggregates at once...." Volitional formations, in the present, constr...
by vinasp
Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:27 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Happy Birthday mikenz66 and vinasp!
Replies: 11
Views: 358

Re: Happy Birthday mikenz66 and vinasp!

Thanks to all.

Happy birthday Mike.

With kind regards, Vincent.
by vinasp
Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The stilling of all fabrications?
Replies: 28
Views: 672

Re: The stilling of all fabrications?

Hi Spiny, "An arahant should attend in an appropriate way to these five clinging-aggregates as inconstant, stressful, a disease, a cancer, an arrow, painful, an affliction, alien, a dissolution, an emptiness, not-self. Although, for an arahant, there is nothing further to do, and nothing to add to w...
by vinasp
Sun May 28, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi Spiny, Spiny: - "Could you say what you think would cease with this example?" To keep things simple let us assume that all aggregates have ceased, which is the state called 'tathagata.' Spiny: - "Say I am out in the town, and I come to a busy road. I see a bus approaching, so I decide not to cros...
by vinasp
Sun May 28, 2017 4:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi Spiny, Earlier you said: Spiny: - "...since cessation of the five aggregates sounds like the complete cessation of experience ...." I think that it would be interesting to explore this, since there is some difference of interpretation here. I would like to start with the five clinging aggregates....
by vinasp
Thu May 25, 2017 8:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi Spiny, Spiny: - "No. 2 makes sense to me Vincent, given that self-view is intimately related to clinging and therefore "produces" the clinging aggregates." Yes. A good description of this is SN 22.44 although the words used are slightly different. The twenty ways of regarding (everything) as self...
by vinasp
Sun May 21, 2017 4:07 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi Spiny, Spiny: - "I'm not sure, Vincent. I think "bhava" is descriptive of personal existence ( experience? ), but isn't Nibbana cessation of the taints rather than cessation of bhava? It is both. There is no doubt about nibbana being the cessation of the asava's. This applies to nibbana attained ...
by vinasp
Sun May 21, 2017 3:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi everyone, "Bhikkhus, form is impermanent, feeling is impermanent, perception is impermanent, volitional formations are impermanent, consciousness is impermanent....." SN 22.12 “Bhikkhus, form is suffering, feeling is suffering, perception is suffering, volitional formations are suffering, conscio...
by vinasp
Thu May 18, 2017 10:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi Spiny, Spiny: - "Yes, and the distinction between clinging aggregates and "plain" aggregates in the Khandha Sutta could well be significant here...." Yes, the clinging aggregates are not just clinging to the five aggregates. "Whatever form — past, future, or present; internal or external; blatant...
by vinasp
Tue May 16, 2017 8:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi everyone, It seems that there are variations in the teachings which later came to be called the three marks. See, for example, the Channa Sutta SN 22.90 Rūpaṃ kho āvuso channa, aniccaṃ, vedanā aniccā, saññā aniccā, saṃkhārā aniccā, viññāṇaṃ aniccaṃ, rūpaṃ anantā, vedanā anattā, saññā anattā, saṃk...
by vinasp
Tue May 16, 2017 1:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi SarathW, SarathW: - "I am interest to know in which Sutta these are mentioned." I would also like to know that. But there may not be any sutta. It could be a later development. An easy way to refer to an earlier teaching by giving it a name. The earlier teaching is where the Buddha says that form...
by vinasp
Mon May 15, 2017 11:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi SarathW, From the Buddhist Dictionary by Nyanatiloka. ti-lakkhaṇa: the '3 characteristics of existence', or signata, are impermanency (anicca, q.v.), suffering or misery (dukkha, q.v.; s. sacca, dukkhatā), not-self (anattā, q.v.)..... --------------------------------------------------------------...
by vinasp
Mon May 15, 2017 10:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi Spiny, Spiny: - "I'm still not clear about the practical distinction between "active" ( volitionally constructed? ) sankharas, and "passive" sankharas like seeing." I will try to explain, but this is a difficult topic and anything I say could be wrong. 1. The term 'sankhara' is both a verb and a ...
by vinasp
Sun May 14, 2017 3:19 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi Spiny, Spiny: - "I'm struggling to understand how there would be any experience at all without sankhata dhammas, since these include the working of the sense bases. How would we see, hear, feel, etc if sankhata dhammas were to cease?" Vincent: - In the context of the discourses sankhata dhammas j...
by vinasp
Wed May 10, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 3543

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Hi everyone, aflatun wrote: "Perhaps another way to say this, is that the three marks are the three marks of the products of hatred, greed and delusion, which would seem to commit us to some form of "anti-realism," or simply a dropping of the realism that seems to color the way we discuss aggregates...
by vinasp
Tue May 09, 2017 4:50 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did the Buddha teach not self?
Replies: 77
Views: 2050

Re: Did the Buddha teach not self?

Hi everyone, Sutta Nipata verse 1076: 1076. 'There is no measuring of one who has gone out, Upasiva', said the Blessed One. 'That no longer exists for him by which they might speak of him. When all phenomena have been removed, then all ways of speaking are also removed.' [Sutta Nipata, PTS, K.R. Nor...