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by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

Consider: If wild animals is the best way to go for animals then is it better for people to live like wild animals?....why not let nature take its course (as you say) when it come to humans? chownah Animals are in a woeful state (according to Buddhism). Humans are higher than that. According to Bud...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

I don't see how your first paragraph has to do with anything....my reply is "so what?"....although you don't seem to be aware of the fact that the way the world is going it might not be long until cheetahs (for example) will only survive because of artificial breeding and human intervention....and ...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

It is throughout this thread and perhaps others where you suggest that it is okay to raise animals for meat. Again, I am not saying that you are not entitled to your opinion. If you have changed your mind, then that is fine, that is your choice. You have presented your views and you are allowed to ...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

And as a result of this there would be many animals who enter the world, live reasonably comfortable lives if raised by people who care about the welfare of the animals they raise, and who then die in a relatively stress free way... I don't think there's any chance animals would stop being bred and...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

So now we are picking sides.....it is not surprising to see that you take a posture against me. Do you even know what "side" I am presenting?....please explain to me what side I am representing. chownah You are obviously saying that it is okay to raise animals for meat and kill them for meat. And t...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

Strictly speaking milk is not vegetable material.....strictly speaking none of us are strictly vegetarian. chownah You are thinking vegetarian = only eats vegetables. This is not the case. A vegetarian is someone who doesn't eat meat. veg·e·tar·i·an /ˌvejəˈterēən/ noun noun: vegetarian; plural noun...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

Oh, okay, so your point might be (?) that domesticated animals have a lower infant mortality rate and therefore a better "quality" of life? Domestic animals receive more care from their owners either due to affection (as in pets) or because of their economic value (farm animals) and receive visits ...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

there would still be a killer, someone killing the animal for food, as part of the meat industry chain of events; someone placing an order, store purchasing more meat, slaughterhouse killing more, requesting more animals from the cattle farmer. And as a result of this there would be many animals wh...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

From: https://animals.mom.me/average-long-pigs-live-6144.html Pigs that are well cared for live an average lifespan of 15 to 20 years -- compared to wild pigs, which are estimated to live only 4 to 8 years. ...... ......Wild pigs can live up to 20 years, but their average lifespan is lower -- an ave...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is born by moisture?
Replies: 6
Views: 96

Re: What is born by moisture?

Isn't athletes' foot born of moisture....also, crotch rot?
chownah
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

You're either vegetarian or you're not I guess that since pretty much all of us have consumed milk at some time in our lives then none of us are strictly vegetarian.....I guess it is pretty much impossible for any mammal to be strictly vegetarian. chownah Milk is vegetarian. It is not vegan, but it...
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:52 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

He said "sorta" veg, not completely veg You're either vegetarian or you're not I guess that since pretty much all of us have consumed milk at some time in our lives then none of us are strictly vegetarian.....I guess it is pretty much impossible for any mammal to be strictly vegetarian. chownah
by chownah
Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:49 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

In the wild the infant mortality for large mammals (zebra, giraffe, etc.) is over 50 percent. chownah What does infant mortality rate of wild animals have to do with the price of tea in China? i.e., this topic? :tongue: For instance comparing the infant mortality rate of wild animals with the infan...
by chownah
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:28 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4403
Views: 321303

Re: the great vegetarian debate

I have no idea what diet has to do with the infant mortality rate of wild animals.

Does anyone know the infant mortality rate for angus cows?
chownah
by chownah
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:10 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Can I become Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King or Gandhi?
Replies: 14
Views: 239

Re: Can I become Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King or Gandhi?

So you cant become an Arahant! I think we still can become an Anagami. :thinking: Don't confuse the commonly used meaning for 'becoming' and the dhamma meaning of 'becoming'. In the dhammic sense, 'becoming' anything is part of the process which results in dukkha......it is therefore incompatible w...