Search found 7572 matches

by chownah
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Are the gods and deities mentioned in Sutta are just the mythology?
Replies: 9
Views: 134

Re: Are the gods and deities mentioned in Sutta are just the mythology?

Obviously, this is wrong. chownah Why? The suttas (eg AN 4.123 ) appear to say those delighting in jhana are reborn as/with gods of streaming radiance. Because there is nothing which makes it obvious that people with real jhana have a radiant & luminous complexion. Actually it sounds like hagiograp...
by chownah
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Are the gods and deities mentioned in Sutta are just the mythology?
Replies: 9
Views: 134

Re: Are the gods and deities mentioned in Sutta are just the mythology?

Obviously, people with real jhana have a radiant & luminous complexion.
Obviously, this is wrong.
chownah
by chownah
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:22 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: space, uncompounded?
Replies: 7
Views: 182

Re: space, uncompounded?

The way I figured it was is that space is conditioned by the perception of form; is that correct? I think that is correct but there is more to it. The space is conditioned by the eye. An example which illustrates this (pun intended) is the concept of "pictorial space". If one googles "pictorial spa...
by chownah
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:42 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Rebirth might be real
Replies: 42
Views: 732

Re: Rebirth might be real

cappuccino wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:56 am
if you desire the end of birth, this is fine

that's after all the goal

a desire to not exist, is misguided
Many times the desire for the end of birth is the same thing as a desire to not exist.
The goal the buddha taught about was the end of suffering.
chownah
by chownah
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:26 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Rebirth might be real
Replies: 42
Views: 732

Re: Rebirth might be real

cappuccino wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:44 pm
craving for non-existence
hm, the end of birth isn't the end of existence
Many times the craving for the end of birth is the same thing as the craving for non-existence.
chownah
by chownah
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:15 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Rebirth might be real
Replies: 42
Views: 732

Re: Rebirth might be real

rebirth isn't good news the good news is rebirth can end My thoughts exactly. :anjali: Maybe The Burden sutta is applicable here; maybe not: "Monks, I will explain to you the burden,[1] the laying hold of the burden, the holding on to the burden,[2] the laying down of the burden. Listen. "What, mon...
by chownah
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

And yet, the sutta you referenced as evidence for entering jhana while walking, actually is the Buddha piling grass and sitting down to enter jhana, going from jhanas 1 to 4, and then getting up and walking, so sitting has to be an important factor, otherwise he would do it while standing. But, ple...
by chownah
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

I guess you do think you know the state of the mind of the buddha.....but what does this have to do with whether we can be in a state of jhana while walking for instance? And I'll repeat what I said above as I wouldn't want it to get lost because of this diversion: "He just finished his alms round ...
by chownah
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

Well if he could enter jhana while walking or eating, why would he sit down? Why would he not just enter jhana as he's eating instead of waiting until after he's done eating like the suttas says? If he could remain in first jhana while walking or eating, why would he sit down and not just stay in f...
by chownah
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

Well he literally said he first sits down, attains the jhanas, and then afterwards if he wants to, he can walk around. Are you purposely denying that? I am really surprised that you would ask me if I am porpoisly denying that the buddha could sit down, enter jhana, and afterwords take a walk. Certa...
by chownah
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

From the same sutta So you see, he attains seclusion. After you emerge from jhanas, there is an after-glow that even changes the complexion on your face. This after-glow can last anywhere from minutes to several days depending on the purity of your mind. Therefore doing walking meditation after jha...
by chownah
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

Then, brahmin, when I am in such a state, if I walk back and forth, on that occasion my walking back and forth is celestial. This excerpt from an3.63 is talking about fourth jhana.......the topic of discussion is about first jhana. chownah From the same sutta After the meal, on my return from alms-...
by chownah
Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

Then, brahmin, when I am in such a state, if I walk back and forth, on that occasion my walking back and forth is celestial.
This excerpt from an3.63 is talking about fourth jhana.......the topic of discussion is about first jhana.
chownah
by chownah
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

Good posting Chowna and Budo. What I think is this is ware the difference in Jhana and Samadhi come from. Perhaps in Samadhi you can walk, talk and eat. From the quote in budo's post: Well sir, whenever I want, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, I enter and r...
by chownah
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?
Replies: 45
Views: 485

Re: Can we remain in first Jhana while walking, talking and eating?

From the Satipathana Sutta: https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.010.nysa.html#fn-15 3. Mindfulness with Clear Comprehension And further, monks, a monk, in going forward and back, applies clear comprehension; in looking straight on and looking away, he applies clear comprehension; in bendi...