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by chownah
Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:28 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 14
Views: 165

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an11/an11.010.than.html "There is the case, Sandha, where for an excellent thoroughbred of a man the perception[2] of earth with regard to earth has ceased to exist; the perception of liquid with regard to liquid... the perception of fire with regard to f...
by chownah
Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Is smoking tobacco/ e-ciggarettes a breach of the 5th precept?
Replies: 35
Views: 1831

Re: Is smoking tobacco/ e-ciggarettes a breach of the 5th precept?

Intoxicants are not allowed--period: hard to believe this can be debated. It's actually intoxicants which lead to carelessness . Nicotine is a stimulant, rather similar to coffee. Is coffee not allowed? Nicotine addicts are careless in that they carelessly disregard the health effects of smoking ci...
by chownah
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

#1. I don't find the chariot simile very illuminating, I think because I have a background in Systems thinking. This says that you can look at anything as a system, and the basic definition of a system is "a set of components connected for a purpose". It works best for man-made things, though it ca...
by chownah
Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

1. the simile of the chariot and 2. personal experience of having an experience which I interpret as being without self....... #1. I don't find the chariot simile very illuminating, I think because I have a background in Systems thinking. This says that you can look at anything as a system, and the...
by chownah
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

I mean "lack of control" as described in the suttas, the aggregates not always doing what I want them to do, or not being what I want them to be. I have not been following this topic closely. Can you bring a link to the sutta which describes "lack of control" as you mention...perhaps with respect t...
by chownah
Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

OK, same for me. But what about being in control? I have a sense of me and the sense of not being in control - do you see the problem? These are not mutually exclusive. I accept what you say and have no desire to contradict you....but I am confused. I said I have a sense of control (of this hand), ...
by chownah
Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:32 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Jordan Peterson - Developing Your Inner Psychopath
Replies: 11
Views: 1307

Re: Jordan Peterson - Developing Your Inner Psychopath

Seems like the buddha teaches us to develop our inner equanimity, compassion, discernment, calm, etc.
Seems like peterson teaches us to develop our inner psycopath and malevelance.
chownah
by chownah
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

I have a sense of "I control this hand....I think "type this or that" and it does it.....it is mine.....it is not yours....you can not make it type this or that.....you have your hand which you can control to type this or that." OK, same for me. But what about being in control? I have a sense of me...
by chownah
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:58 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Is smoking tobacco/ e-ciggarettes a breach of the 5th precept?
Replies: 35
Views: 1831

Re: Is smoking tobacco/ e-ciggarettes a breach of the 5th precept?

If smoking is merely out of habit then the smoker could easily smoke something other than tobacco....the smoker could smoke something which did not contain any drug. In this way they would be setting a good example which might help others better control a dangerous habit. My guess is that the only r...
by chownah
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

Your point is well taken .....without some kind of control it is difficult to imagine a self but if one imagines control well then this is enough to support the idea of an imagined self.... .... So do you have a sense of "me"? And do you feel like you're in control of everything? I have a sense of ...
by chownah
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

By the way....do you know of the sutta where the buddha said that he could not conceive of a self which would not cause pain and anguish?....I think it would be good to bring it to these discussions of the possible exisence of self. chownah There is this bit in MN 22: "You may well accept, monks, t...
by chownah
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

Specifically, having control is a sufficient and necessary condition for having a self, in the context within which the Buddha was talking. I chuckled when I read this......it is sort of funny to see someone state a necessary and sufficient condition for something which does not exist!!!!!! :jumpin...
by chownah
Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did Buddha Permanently Dwell in Nibbana or was In-and-Out
Replies: 113
Views: 2772

Re: Did Buddha Permanently Dwell in Nibbana or was In-and-Out

I hope this will help in understanding budo's post above.....this is from the same site on the "Previous" page: 575 “Mendicants, anyone who brings into their mind the great ocean includes all of the streams that run into it. In the same way, anyone who has developed and cultivated mindfulness of the...
by chownah
Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Self view and conceit
Replies: 86
Views: 3828

Re: Self view and conceit

Specifically, having control is a sufficient and necessary condition for having a self, in the context within which the Buddha was talking. I chuckled when I read this......it is sort of funny to see someone state a necessary and sufficient condition for something which does not exist!!!!!! :jumpin...