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by Way~Farer
Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:28 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

Circle5 wrote:let me ask another question: Where is it that you assume a self to be ?
If you read more carefully, you will see that I have not said what you seem to think I said.
by Way~Farer
Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:20 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

Buddha did his best to make it as clear as possible that there is no self. It's his main doctrine. It's repeated countless of times throughout the nikayas. Except for that it's not. As I have said, and please take time to think about it, the word 'anatta' is an adjective . It is always used to desc...
by Way~Farer
Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:21 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

Why not read the sutta to the end? Here is the whole text. Then the wanderer Vacchagotta went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, exchanged courteous greetings with him. After an exchange of friendly greetings & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there he asked the Blessed One: "Now ...
by Way~Farer
Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:55 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

The Vajjira Sutta makes the exact same point, and is clearly more ancient, dating from the time of the living Buddha. The Milindapañha is an exegetical work, which frequently refers to the earlier texts. It is at least 500 years later than the Buddha's parinibbāna. The chariot being made up of part...
by Way~Farer
Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:00 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

Worldly analogies are of limited use, they break down at some point. That is very much the point I was making with the OP: human beings are not really like 'chariots', because even though they are in some sense, an assemblage of parts, there is something else, which is intentionality , which gives ...
by Way~Farer
Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:35 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

Depends on what is meant by "exist." Now you're doing philosophy! I don't think it's possible to ask "What remains, when the personality view is removed?" Well, there's a hint in the Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta. You know: 'when all the fuel is removed, then the fire goes out'. What remains when the fire...
by Way~Farer
Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:17 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

Why would Vaccha have become confused? What is there to be confused about? Something either exists or it doesn't, right?
by Way~Farer
Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:18 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

I am not persuaded by the usual interpretation of 'no self'. Notice that in all the scriptural material, the term is given as an adjective, that is, 'anatta', and is one of the three marks of all phenomenal experience, the other two being dukkha and annica. Everything is without self, impermanent, u...
by Way~Farer
Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:34 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

'But since, Your Majesty, one is linked once again with a new organism, therefore one is not freed from one's evil deeds." '
by Way~Farer
Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:54 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: A Question for Nagasena
Replies: 26
Views: 1056

Re: A Question for Nagasena

Who is it, that removes the personality-view? Or put another way, what remains, when the personality view is removed?
by Way~Farer
Wed May 03, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Why grammar still matters in the 21st century
Replies: 12
Views: 683

Re: Why grammar still matters in the 21st century

As a tech writer, I have to love that.

:anjali:
by Way~Farer
Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Divinity belief in Buddhism
Replies: 6
Views: 501

Re: Divinity belief in Buddhism

Notice that the words 'divine' and 'deva' have the same root. Devas (gods, divine beings) are frequently referred to in the Pali texts. For example, there is the teaching that Brahma Sahampati (supreme deity) appeared before Buddha and begged him to teach. However it's also the case that the Buddha ...
by Way~Farer
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:44 am
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: How can the disappearance of consciousness, be directly discerned?
Replies: 24
Views: 1591

Re: How can the disappearance of consciousness, be directly discerned?

You know 'experienced by no-one' is linguistically identical to 'not experienced', right? I think this subject is bound up with states of jhana. And those states are not conscious states, they are states of trance or rapture. That is why, incidentally, yogis sit in the padmasana - because in that po...
by Way~Farer
Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:18 am
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: How can the disappearance of consciousness, be directly discerned?
Replies: 24
Views: 1591

Re: How can the disappearance of consciousness, be directly discerned?

I have a question about this passage quoted from Cūḷavedalla Sutta, above: “The thought does not occur to a monk as he is attaining the cessation of perception & feeling that ‘I am about to attain the cessation of perception & feeling’ or that ‘I am attaining the cessation of perception & feeling’ o...
by Way~Farer
Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:09 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there an "anyone can reach enlightenment" view?
Replies: 46
Views: 1630

Re: Is there an "anyone can reach enlightenment" view?

I like the idea that we have attained it already but forgotten how to appreciate it. Therefore the practice is to learn to appreciate what we already have, instead of looking for what we don't have. It's not the be-all and end-all of teachings, but it is a very good practice. :anjali: This sounds v...
by Way~Farer
Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is there an "anyone can reach enlightenment" view?
Replies: 46
Views: 1630

Re: Is there an "anyone can reach enlightenment" view?

I like the idea that we have attained it already but forgotten how to appreciate it. Therefore the practice is to learn to appreciate what we already have, instead of looking for what we don't have. It's not the be-all and end-all of teachings, but it is a very good practice.

:anjali:
by Way~Farer
Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:16 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Conscious Realism - Hoffman and view on reality
Replies: 2
Views: 428

Re: Conscious Realism - Hoffman and view on reality

Em, you say you can't locate it, and post a link to it! I have been perusing Donald Hoffman's various papers and video interviews. There's a really nice journalistic piece on him in The Atlantic Monthly . Actually, the anti-realist aspect of his philosophy is much more like Yogācāra than Theravada. ...
by Way~Farer
Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:21 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?
Replies: 41
Views: 1649

Re: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?

Never mind, I too think it's an interesting question, and I think Peter Harvey's comments are germane, and they're based on the Pali texts (although the book they're from is a comparative religion text book.) But I am not offering them by any means as a definitive 'answer' or final word, simply as a...
by Way~Farer
Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:45 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?
Replies: 41
Views: 1649

Re: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?

So, unless I am incorrect in this assumption, this work you are referencing is not from an author representative of the Classical (Orthodox Theravada) point-of-view and, therefore, has no place here at all. Apologies. I thought it was relevant to the topic but I hadn't noticed the rules about only ...
by Way~Farer
Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:15 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?
Replies: 41
Views: 1649

Re: According to the commentary tradition, is supramundane consciousness conditioned?

Have a look at Consciousness Mysticism in the Discourses of the Buddha, Peter Harvey (In The Yogi and the Mystic: Studies in Indian and Comparative Mysticism ed. Karel Werner. Incomplete but generous preview in Google books.)