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by retrofuturist
Thu May 25, 2017 12:51 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?
Replies: 135
Views: 2161

Re: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?

Greetings Santi,

Santi253 wrote:What ultimately matters is not whether the Mahayana sutras were taught by the historical Buddha. What instead matters is ...

Precisely why, to return to your original theme, you shouldn't be a Theravada Buddhist.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Mon May 22, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?
Replies: 135
Views: 2161

Re: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?

Greetings, Conflating two different understandings of the term "upaya," to justify a sense of superiority for one's own Buddhist sect , is not what the Buddha intended. It's false speech. You are projecting this into other people's minds, you are psychoanalyzing them. This is against the T...
by retrofuturist
Mon May 22, 2017 12:56 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?
Replies: 135
Views: 2161

Re: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?

Greetings, It is interesting. I'll have to think about it. While it seems to appeal to what many would call "common sense" it also seems like it could soooo easily be used as a justification for just about anything. Yes, which is precisely why I called out moral relativism earlier in this ...
by retrofuturist
Fri May 19, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?
Replies: 135
Views: 2161

Re: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?

Greetings Santi, Yes, the word "upaya" is there... but the use of the word as a principle of moral relativity as it is found in the Mahayana bodhisattva ideal is not. This is well explained by binocular above. It was common for people to try to legitimize later concepts and developments by...
by retrofuturist
Fri May 19, 2017 10:24 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?
Replies: 135
Views: 2161

Re: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?

Greetings Santi,

Just so you know, skilful means (upaya) is a Mahayana concept. The Buddha never taught such a principle of moral relativism.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Wed May 17, 2017 10:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: My action about the 12 dependent origination
Replies: 29
Views: 467

Re: My action about the 12 dependent origination

Greetings CJMacie, ... waterfall... it repeatedly functions due to flows, but it's not circular. The water from the bottom does not condition the water above. Only when the downstream flow stops, does the waterfall cease to function. You mean stopped “upstream” – so no water is coming down?. I mean ...
by retrofuturist
Wed May 17, 2017 12:36 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Having just joined.
Replies: 11
Views: 209

Re: Having just joined.

Greetings,

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel.

:buddha1:

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Mon May 15, 2017 5:38 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?
Replies: 135
Views: 2161

Re: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?

Greetings Santi, Since this sub-forum is entitled "Connections to Other Paths," it seems strange to simply tell members of other paths to go away. You're over-reading into what was said by Bhikkhu Pesala. As you seem to have a greater affinity with the Mahayana Sutras, it's a perfectly nat...
by retrofuturist
Sun May 14, 2017 11:36 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Differentiating Buddhism from Hinduism
Replies: 29
Views: 632

Re: Differentiating Buddhism from Hinduism

Greetings,

Does Hinduism have the Four Noble Truths or paticcasamuppada in it nowadays?

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Sun May 14, 2017 10:48 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: Thumbs up button
Replies: 87
Views: 5697

Re: Thumbs up button

Greetings, ...we should let each person make their own judgement... :thumbsup: Well said. In these technologically-aided times of echo-chambers and groupthink, the skill of being able to independently make up your own mind on matters, and go against the grain where necessary, is vitally important to...
by retrofuturist
Sat May 13, 2017 5:16 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?
Replies: 135
Views: 2161

Re: Should I be a Theravada Buddhist?

Greetings Santi, However politically correct you may wish to be, there is no escaping the reality that the triumphalism and supersessionism inherent within Mahayana Buddhism undermines and insults the Buddha and his teachings through the presumptuousness that it can articulate the Dhamma better than...
by retrofuturist
Sat May 13, 2017 4:33 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: My action about the 12 dependent origination
Replies: 29
Views: 467

Re: My action about the 12 dependent origination

Greetings,

2600htz wrote:Are we talking about the same thing ? -_-, my english is not so good haha.

I'm not sure, but I think we've explained ourselves as much as is necessary to communicate our points, so I'm happy to leave it there.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Sat May 13, 2017 4:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: My action about the 12 dependent origination
Replies: 29
Views: 467

Re: My action about the 12 dependent origination

Greetings 2600htz, But why i am assuming there is a being?, when have i used the word "circular" ?. Because you speak of a re -peating. The re in re peating signifies "again" . If these are happening " again ", what is the point of reference for which these " re pe...
by retrofuturist
Sat May 13, 2017 2:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: My action about the 12 dependent origination
Replies: 29
Views: 467

Re: My action about the 12 dependent origination

Greetings 2600htz, -Aging and death is a ocurrence that repeats or is repeated -Birth is a ocurrence that repeats or is repeated -etc. What im missing?. You're assuming there is a being, to whom these things could happen, and as such you're falsely projecting a self/being through time... But that as...
by retrofuturist
Fri May 12, 2017 10:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: My action about the 12 dependent origination
Replies: 29
Views: 467

Re: My action about the 12 dependent origination

Greetings, There are several variants of the standard paticcasamuppada formula throughout the Pali Canon. Whilst being different, none illustrate anything cyclical other than those that speak of the relationship between nama-rupa (name-and-form) and vinnana (consciousness). (e.g. DN 15). This "...
by retrofuturist
Fri May 12, 2017 4:58 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Orthodox Hindu proofs of Self/critiques of Buddhist views
Replies: 28
Views: 1293

Re: Orthodox Hindu proofs of Self/critiques of Buddhist views

Greetings Santi, Walpola Rahula is correct in relation to nibbana and non-duality, however he over-reaches when insisting on "no self" (in contrast to "not-self"). So the book isn't garbage, but don't take it as definitive either. Everyone, everywhere, infuses Dhamma books with t...
by retrofuturist
Fri May 12, 2017 4:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: No big deal!
Replies: 9
Views: 274

Re: No big deal!

Greetings, It is impermanent, then it is impermanent. It is unsatisfactory then it is unsatisfactory. It is no self, then it is no self. Why do I viewed this way? It is because the mind is in the object, it sees and just say, ah ok, no big deal hehehe! :namaste: True, but be careful. The more you re...
by retrofuturist
Fri May 12, 2017 4:36 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hey there!
Replies: 5
Views: 177

Re: Hey there!

Greetings Tony,

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel.

:buddha1:

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Fri May 12, 2017 4:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: My action about the 12 dependent origination
Replies: 29
Views: 467

Re: My action about the 12 dependent origination

Greetings David,

What about "space"? It becomes a "thing" by virtue of being attributed thing-ness, yet, it is nothing.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Fri May 12, 2017 2:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: My action about the 12 dependent origination
Replies: 29
Views: 467

Re: My action about the 12 dependent origination

Greetings,

2600htz wrote:What do u mean by dependent origination being a cycle or not being a cycle?

I mean it's not a cycle, and the suttas never taught it as a cycle.

For more information, see: Is There Scriptural Justification for The Wheel

Metta,
Paul. :)

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