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by equilibrium
Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2230
Views: 100550

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

“Bhikkhus, there are these three characteristics that define the unconditioned!

What three? No arising is seen, no vanishing is seen, and no alteration while it persists is seen. These are the three characteristics that define the unconditioned.” [AN 3.47]
by equilibrium
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2230
Views: 100550

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

First, there are 2 types of nibbana - with residue and without. First one, as I see it, and as Ven. Sariputta says, is "just a destruction of defilements". Which is well, the mind of arahant. Then, there is 2nd type - without residue. This is not "psychical nibbana", but a "real one", a final one. ...
by equilibrium
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Rebirth - how does it work?
Replies: 8
Views: 162

Re: Rebirth - how does it work?

So if the aim is to avoid rebirth, then why do we need spiritual practice like meditation, metta, etc? A simple desire not to come back should suffice? To avoid rebirth is to BREAK out of the cycle of existence, to SEE the actual illusion. If this isn't seen, one is bound within it.....conditioned ...
by equilibrium
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:53 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Do we have a soul till Nibbana?
Replies: 116
Views: 2033

Re: Do we have a soul till Nibbana?

.....how are we reborn if there is no soul if nothing goes from one life to the next. cycle of rebirth.....under SN 22.87: notes on Consciousness (established or unestablished)…and it is not a self. The Blessed One then addressed the bhikkhus thus: “Come, bhikkhus, let us go to the Black Rock on th...
by equilibrium
Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is it possible to learn true dhamma without Pali ?
Replies: 42
Views: 561

Re: Is it possible to learn true dhamma without Pali ?

To be realised.......is not the same as learn.

Mundane knowledge is a raft!
by equilibrium
Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is self ? What is soul ?
Replies: 74
Views: 1792

Re: What is self ? What is soul ?

MN22:..... “If there were a self , monks, would there be my self’s property?” — “So it is, Lord.” — “Or if there is a self’s property, would there by my self?” — “So it is, Lord.” — “Since in truth and in fact, self and self’s property do not obtain, O monks, then this ground for views, ‘The univers...
by equilibrium
Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:17 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Nibbana and nihilism
Replies: 68
Views: 1441

Re: Nibbana and nihilism

MN22:..... “There can be, monk,” said the Blessed One. "In that case, monk, someone does not have this view: ‘The universe is the Self… eternally the same shall I abide in that very condition.’ He then hears a Perfect One expounding the Teaching for the removal of all grounds for views, of all preju...
by equilibrium
Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Let's discuss Mount Sineru!
Replies: 35
Views: 786

Re: Let's discuss Mount Sineru!

rightviewftw wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:29 pm
Something is missing here.
Ask yourself a question.....Where is the centre of the universe?
by equilibrium
Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is the pratice summed up in a few words?
Replies: 21
Views: 409

Re: What is the pratice summed up in a few words?

Conditioned.....unconditioned!

Samsara.....Nibbana!

Cloudy day.....Sunny blue sky!

Prison.....Escaped from jail!

Delusion.....Non-delusion!

Day and night.....yet the sun is ALWAYS shining!
by equilibrium
Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Beautiful and inspiring words about Nibbana
Replies: 22
Views: 668

Re: Beautiful and inspiring words about Nibbana

Dhp VIII: You can beat a thousand men in a thousand battles, but the true conqueror is the person who conquers himself. Iti 43: "The escape from that is: calm, permanent, beyond inference, unborn, unproduced, the sorrowless, stainless state, the cessation of stressful qualities, the stilling of fabr...
by equilibrium
Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: "Is there a Self?"
Replies: 192
Views: 5572

Re: "Is there a Self?"

mikenz66 wrote: this "no" vs "not" is an English language distinction
"no" is based on extreme.
"not" is based on the middle-way.....which leads to knowledge & vision with right release.
by equilibrium
Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:40 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: nibbāna is the cessation of existence
Replies: 133
Views: 2741

Re: nibbāna is the cessation of existence

dylanj wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:07 pm
.....When all has ceased,.....
So what is left?
by equilibrium
Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: In Ananda Sutta, the Buddha seems to state that both "there is a self" and "there is no self" are Wrong Views.
Replies: 83
Views: 1580

Re: In Ananda Sutta, the Buddha seems to state that both "there is a self" and "there is no self" are Wrong Views.

AN 10.81..... “Just as a red, blue, or white lotus born in the water and growing in the water, rises up above the water and stands with no water adhering to it, in the same way the Tathagata — freed, dissociated, & released from these ten things — dwells with unrestricted awareness .” The word relea...
by equilibrium
Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: In Ananda Sutta, the Buddha seems to state that both "there is a self" and "there is no self" are Wrong Views.
Replies: 83
Views: 1580

Re: In Ananda Sutta, the Buddha seems to state that both "there is a self" and "there is no self" are Wrong Views.

Self and no-self are extremes. The teachings teaches the middle-way, avoiding both extremes and goes right through the middle. Answer the question of Not-self then the Self will be answered. MN49..... Consciousness without surface , endless, radiant all around, has not been experienced through the ...
by equilibrium
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2230
Views: 100550

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

cappuccino wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:49 pm
the truth is already true
Yet one is under delusion.
wrote: form is not self already
Fabrications had always been considered as both not-self and self.
wrote:hence nirvana is not annihilation
Yet where one escapes Samsara.
by equilibrium
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2230
Views: 100550

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

I'm still not clear on what your position is here. No self is an extreme view to be rejected. Self is an extreme view. Not self is different in a subtle way. Body isn't self, mind isn't self, etc. Surely the middle-way will lead one out of Samsara? If you blow out a fire, has reality itself disappe...
by equilibrium
Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 16.12 Tathāgata parammaraṇa sutta. After Death.
Replies: 18
Views: 910

Re: SN 16.12 Tathāgata parammaraṇa sutta. After Death.

I would have preferred a straight answer to the question. The question is also framed wrongly because in that dimension, birth & death doesn't apply. Therefore to ask existence which has death is therefore conditioned. Buddha is beyond this:.....under MN121: ..... Ven. Ananda, coming out of seclusi...
by equilibrium
Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:56 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Emptiness: the reality beyond reality
Replies: 99
Views: 7946

Re: Emptiness: the reality beyond reality

The chair emerged from nothing. So what existed first is nothing - the ultimate truth . If "nothing" becomes something.....then the cycle of Cause and Effect cannot be true! Depending on how one grasp on the word of Emptiness / nothing.....it cannot be NIL. That is why the teaching is via the "midd...
by equilibrium
Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Cessation of Contact
Replies: 84
Views: 3812

Re: Cessation of Contact

Intention, I tell you, is kamma. Intending, one does kamma by way of body, speech and mind. And what is the cause by which kamma comes into play? Contact, bhikkhus. ... And what is the cessation of kamma? From the cessation of contact is the cessation of kamma; and just this noble eightfold path – ...
by equilibrium
Tue May 03, 2016 10:30 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: post-annihilationist nibbana tangents
Replies: 42
Views: 2377

Re: post-annihilationist nibbana tangents

So the nearest thing we can describe as nibbana is death, is it not? Imagination it is.....if it is the case then there is no requirement for the path to exist.....yet, when reached.....it can be noted as: Dhp XI 154:.....O house-builder, you are seen! You will not build this house again. For your ...