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by terryshine
Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

This is how the 'not self' slowly turned into a 'no self' and the rebirth-concept finally creeped in. Also because those people no longer really understood his subtle point of 'not denying that it is there, just denying that this leads to mokṣa'. But just speculation here, don't take it too serious...
by terryshine
Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

If one has studied Buddhism for forty years, is it possible to hold no views on rebirth? Someone new to the Dhamma might be expected to have no views about something he or she has never even thought about, but clearly you have read many books on Buddhism and listened to numerous Dhamma talks. The B...
by terryshine
Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

One cannot infer from the story of the Weaver's daughter that a belief in rebirth is not necessary to gain Stream-winning. One can only infer that direct knowledge of previous lives is unnecessary. Could you please confirm that what you are saying here is - that it is not necessary to have previous...
by terryshine
Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

This is how the 'not self' slowly turned into a 'no self' and the rebirth-concept finally creeped in. Also because those people no longer really understood his subtle point of 'not denying that it is there, just denying that this leads to mokṣa'. But just speculation here, don't take it too serious...
by terryshine
Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

Do you think the Buddha would bother to teach things that were NOT required to remove self view and other defilement's? But the fact is that the Buddha did "bother" to teach literal rebirth in so many suttas. From the logic above, that means a provisional belief in rebirth must play an important ro...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

"The skillfulness of one's actions in life determine one's destination after death: Dhp 17, Dhp 18, Dhp 240" - cooran From http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?t=9609" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);r...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

"The skillfulness of one's actions in life determine one's destination after death: Dhp 17, Dhp 18, Dhp 240" - cooran From http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?t=9609" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);r...
by terryshine
Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

Yet he does say in a somewhat authoritative formulation something along the lines of 'many monks have got an incorrect understanding of rebirth and assume it spreads over several lives'. Can this really just be his personal opinion? He certainly doesn't make it sound like that. He says that he coul...
by terryshine
Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

I’m not putting him forward as a Buddha or anything like that, especially as I have never met him. I didn't assume you were doing this, I'm just giving my account of personally spending time with him. But his book oozes with enthusiasm for attaining knowledge of the three marks – how bad is that? L...
by terryshine
Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

Hi thepea, I don't think his teachings are in line with true Buddhism, some people might think otherwise of course. I don't think his teachings and lifestyle are in line with Theravaden Buddhism, from what I witnessed I believe he would be declared defeated as a monk. As far as true Buddhism, I can...
by terryshine
Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

Having attained a stage of nibbana, that stays and has a considerable lasting effect on mind and body. Jhanas are very impermanent. So, actually you are saying that nibbana is like jhana, only a permanent form, right? I think we are getting down to knit picking here, rather more trying a form of in...
by terryshine
Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:25 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

You mention the page numbers but not the name of the book! Nibana is not a state of mind. its whats left after the defilement's are dealt with. An Inquiring Mind's Journey, Bhante Kovida The book your link is pointing to. If Nibbana would just be what is left when there are no defilements, then the...
by terryshine
Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

It is completely the opposite. If there is rebirth, it is therefore important to develop the path as to reach Nibbāna in this life or the next. If there is no rebirth, what is the point of reaching Nibbāna, other than to feel really blissful? Well I'll go to the pub and have a pint and do it in my ...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:53 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

It is completely the opposite. If there is rebirth, it is therefore important to develop the path as to reach Nibbāna in this life or the next. If there is no rebirth, what is the point of reaching Nibbāna, other than to feel really blissful? I'm sorry samseva but your above quote shows a total lac...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

Yet he does say in a somewhat authoritative formulation something along the lines of 'many monks have got an incorrect understanding of rebirth and assume it spreads over several lives'. Can this really just be his personal opinion? He certainly doesn't make it sound like that. He says that he coul...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:38 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

dhammacoustic wrote:
terryshine wrote:
dhammacoustic wrote: It is not speculation, it is what the Buddha said.


:anjali:
Its not what the Buddha said its what the books say the Buddha said.
by terryshine
Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

@terryshine It is from page 38. I can't copy the books content directly. On page 40 he says nirvana is a "sublime state of being"... Also there is a lot of talk of "purifying" the mind and silence as an attribute of enlightenment. What do you mean with explain the meaning? Isn't the meaning obvious...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:31 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

Yet he does say in a somewhat authoritative formulation something along the lines of 'many monks have got an incorrect understanding of rebirth and assume it spreads over several lives'. Can this really just be his personal opinion? He certainly doesn't make it sound like that. Glad you picked up o...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

I'm not sure you will find any great difference between one bod and another. We all have sankharas arising and passing. See yourself and you see others inc the Buddha, who also operates in the same way. Though well done Kirk5a Either you have attained or have gained psychic powers. May I offer my c...
by terryshine
Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3544

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

Meggo wrote:vast awareness, which is the true self...
objects arise and pass away relative to this awareness...
cosmic consciousness...

doesn't seem to have much to do with real buddhism...
Wonder if you can explain the meaning of your quote?