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by atipattoh
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

chownah wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:17 pm
....it is "'Nibbana paranam sunnam' " that we are trying to find I think.
chownah
Even saṃyuktāgama-80 Discourse on the Seal of Dharma already says something else; i really doubt "Nibbana paranam sunnam" is valid, else there will be contradicting sutta.
by atipattoh
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

This may be close to it. But, nothingness and animitta is mention reverse compare to Theravada. saṃyuktāgama-80. Discourse on the Seal of Dharma ... If a monk speaks like this: ‘Without having attained concentration on emptiness, I shall give rise to signlessness (animitta), nothingness, and have kn...
by atipattoh
Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

nibbānaṃ paramaṃ sukhaṃ is in Dhammapada Khuddakanikāya Dhammapada Sukhavagga .... Ekaupāsakavatthu Jighacchāparamā rogā, saṅkhāraparamā dukhā; Etaṃ ñatvā yathābhūtaṃ, nibbānaṃ paramaṃ sukhaṃ. Pasenadikosalavatthu Ārogyaparamā lābhā, Santuṭṭhiparamaṃ dhanaṃ; Vissāsaparamā ñāti , Nibbānaṃ paramaṃ suk...
by atipattoh
Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

... all forms of Buddhism “does not play on words or trying to understand thru concept, but practically doing it, experiencing it, knowing it, seeing it.” If they do, they are not real Buddhism! :D Ah, 👍 thats one good way to distinguish not real Buddhism. And with that, back to Theravada. What is ...
by atipattoh
Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:28 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

The Heart Sutra is a summary of the Prajnaparmita literature and what arose from that…. Heart sutra differ greatly from Prajñāpāramitā, since it omitted the core statement in the Prajñāpāramitā scrolls which says, infact opposite of what the scrolls presented, from (note:treating below as my summar...
by atipattoh
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:43 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

What do you all make of this new translation of the Heart Sutra by Thich Nhat Hanh - any good? https://plumvillage.org/news/thich-nhat-hanh-new-heart-sutra-translation/ “Listen Sariputra, all phenomena bear the mark of Emptiness; their true nature is the nature of no Birth no Death, no Being no Non...
by atipattoh
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

Some possible options, though there may be others: "Form is empty" "Form is emptiness" "Form is only emptiness" "Form is none other than emptiness" Hi Dinsdale I find that it is tricky to translate the 2 separately, into english. You can see Philly’s translation of “that which is form is emptiness ...
by atipattoh
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:01 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

Yes, it would require quite fluent in chinese language to fully understand it. But, to a small extend, i believe you should have grabs the msg. If, i did not quote the sutra text to point out the variation, that will attract unnecessary further inquiry for sources of claim; that, heart sutra, is no...
by atipattoh
Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:49 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

The post is actually not just address to you, for Shanyin as well. Heart sutra is a variation from 大般若波羅蜜多經 , “Form is not other than emptiness. Emptiness is not other than form”. is not the Buddha's words Not much meaning to find Theravada sutta to match heart sutra. Form is not other than emptine...
by atipattoh
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:57 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

Hi chownah, the above is 大般若波羅蜜多經 , varies from the heart sutra that you quoted; on “Form is not other than emptiness. Emptiness is not other than form”. The name for heart sutra is “ 般若波羅蜜多 心 經” From the heart sutra: Listen, Sariputra, (2-form is emptiness, emptiness is form). (1-Form is not other ...
by atipattoh
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:31 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

Hi, when I said I don’t see it different from Theravada, limited to those 2 phrases. Another 2 phrases “ 色不异空,空不异色”prior to those 2 phrases, I don’t think they are in Theravada. I had been feeling very odd when reading these 2; so a little digging, found this, that, as i read it, has similarity in T...
by atipattoh
Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:27 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

Is that from the Heart Sutra? And what do you think the correct meaning is here? Note that the Heart Sutra also says that emptiness is form, which I understand to mean that emptiness is not a "thing", just the nature of the aggregates. Yes, Heart Sutra. 色=/=空, rather 色<==>空 (a relation nature) , yo...
by atipattoh
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:02 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Form is emptiness
Replies: 115
Views: 3007

Re: Form is emptiness

The text says "色是空,空是色", not "色是空,空是色". The problem with Chinese interpreter is, it is interpreted as 色是空空是色.
Therefore, it should not be directly understood as "form is emptiness".
by atipattoh
Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:50 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Usefulness of Meditation
Replies: 18
Views: 798

Re: Usefulness of Meditation

Does a person, not attached to things, that he is able to sit; or he is able to let go, therefore he is able to sit, or
he is able to sit, therefore he is able to let go?
by atipattoh
Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sankhara = "replicator"?
Replies: 26
Views: 777

Re: Sankhara = "replicator"?

Example usage sabbe sankhara anicca: Every replicator is temporary. Where "replicator" doesn't fit A more general meaning of sankhara seems to be something like: anything that is created due to causes and is itself a cause of other things. In this meaning, a sankhara wouldn't necessarily have to be...