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by Zom
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:01 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What is the difference between the Theravada and Mahayana concepts of Buddhahood?
Replies: 39
Views: 561

Re: What is the difference between the Theravada and Mahayana concepts of Buddhahood?

Believe me, I read enough. And don't forget that all mahayanic texts are considered true and correct by mahayanists - there is no such thing that some mayahanic groups don't accept certain scriptures. Mahayana is all-inclusive religion (and for this reason it has a number of inner contradictions).
by Zom
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What is the difference between the Theravada and Mahayana concepts of Buddhahood?
Replies: 39
Views: 561

Re: What is the difference between the Theravada and Mahayana concepts of Buddhahood?

Mahayanic texts is the source. Of course they don't call him A God, but all attributes are there.
by Zom
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:29 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

I don't want to get offtopic from the interesting discussion but Ram Bomjon was shown to be a fake sharlatan who then went to become a sadistic guru. He killed a couple of woman and did all kind of sadistic stuff. Yes, I know that his story is contradictory, and there are claims from some people th...
by Zom
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

But one can also hear it from lay meditators with 30 or 40 years experience, and Ajahns who have been in robes for 50+ years. Actually this is forbidden for monks to say about such things, so I doubt you could hear that. From lay buddhists with such practice experience I have not heard such a thing...
by Zom
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

The same broad reading, though, gives rise to support for a meditative practice. Many learned Ajahns and translators are in favour of meditation and retreats for lay supporters. I don't really think they are in favour because they found that in the texts. Rather, all this "meditation hype" has a be...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

Similarly, people study and read and reflect for many years Then they read and study bad - because texts are clear on many "disputable" matters. One just need to look in. We seem to gone round in a circle and come back to this. Your experience is perhaps less valuable to others than you might imagi...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

You may be right, but only if you had set out to reach those jhanas and nothing else. But that practice is meant to get jhanas. Meditation is only for that, according to texts. Nowadays, of course, meditation became a panacea - but in good old times it was not. It was a special method to get partic...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

What Zom was discouraging was intensive practice without proper preparation. See the sutta I posted here: Ow, a nice sutta quote I totally forgot. Among those I usually recall this one: The Blessed One, brahmin, did not praise every type of meditation, nor did he condemn every type of meditation. W...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

The point here is that Pessa is not a monk. He is a white-clothed lay follower, who meditates, even though he considers himself to have less than perfect sila and wisdom, in the way the Buddha prescribes. Ow, I think we are talking about different persons here. I was refering to a monk in SN 47.3. ...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

I was going by Bhikkhu Bodhi's account: Ven. Bodhi speaks about gradual Dhamma exposition (gradual lecture). This is different from gradual path teaching. While Buddha gradually speaking mentions dana in lecture - somehow he doesn't teach Dana to be a part of gradual training. For this reason I con...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

yet does not advise Pessa not to meditate, or says that he is wasting his time. He does not need to - because that monk does not ask this. Buddha just says with what he, as a monk, should begin. And no - not with meditation. Second, the Graduated Teachings typically advocate the completion or perfe...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

I'm not a newbie buddhist, but I'm too content every time I give (and have given) dana. Do you see what I mean? No context is shown in the sutta. What was the situation? Why Buddha actually said that? Maybe it was Uposatha day and he urged them to do something more this very day, this very evening? ...
by Zom
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Gradual practice
Replies: 90
Views: 3060

Re: Gradual practice

Well apparently they were newbies enough in as much as they would be content with just offering Dana! Anathapindika hardly was a newbie here, given the context that many people became buddhists by then. Anyway, there is no clear evidence anywhere in Canon that Buddha said something like "Meditate, ...