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by Zom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:12 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 30
Views: 541

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

Is there a reason the Chinese text is by default considered corrupt when there is a conflict with the Pali? Why is it not the other way around? In this particular case it is corrupted simply because jhana idea is so central to Buddha's original teaching and many many times it is hinted that jhana i...
by Zom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?
Replies: 12
Views: 102

Re: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?

Why is non returning based on jhana? I've read that before, but I don't understand why jhana is specifically emphasised for non returning. Because of the clean and powerful mind. Only such jhanic mind can uproot these defilements. And you dont think that unpleasent feeling comes from hatered and pl...
by Zom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 30
Views: 541

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

Do you mean (the wisdom-liberated) arahant must attain up to the 'fourth' jhana, or at least one of the four jhanas (in the Pali tradition)? If you read MN 64 you might make a conclusion that at least 1st jhana is needed. However, if you read more suttas (and combine all the information together) y...
by Zom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?
Replies: 12
Views: 102

Re: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?

No, they are not. Illwill is born from hatred root (dosa), and sensual desire is born from greed root (lobha).
by Zom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?
Replies: 12
Views: 102

Re: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?

Equanimity has nothing to do with good (kusala) or bad (akusala). This is just a type of feeling.
by Zom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?
Replies: 12
Views: 102

Re: Sensual desires and ill will are uprooted by equanimity of fourth jhana?

4th and 5th fetters are destroyed by attaining fruit of non-returning, which is based on jhana. No jhana alone by itself can destroy fetters.
by Zom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Let's discuss Mount Sineru!
Replies: 35
Views: 406

Re: Let's discuss Mount Sineru!

Buddha used old vedic mythos - be it Sakka (Indra) gods, Mount Neru, or Chakkavartin idea. These were not his ideas. They existed before him. What we know is that he used them in preaching Dhamma. I believe that Buddha never lied, so he couldn't speak about something which does not exist in reality....
by Zom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:51 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 30
Views: 541

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

However, the Chinese version of the Susima sutta (SN 12.70) is SA 347, which shows the wisdom-liberated arhat is without the need of the four dhyanas/jhanas Yes, but it is obviously a corrupted version, because it directly contradicts MN 64 - the best proof that there are no arahants without jhanas.
by Zom
Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 30
Views: 541

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

Is because he dont want the consciousness aggregate to enter the Arupa States so he dies in most pleasant(pleasant abiding it is proclaimed by the wise ones, the equanimity of 4th jhana) material state. When life force runs out, All five aggregates cease. That's what i think more or less. If he was...
by Zom
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 30
Views: 541

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

The four jhanas are part of the noble eightfold part, which is not including the arupa ayatana and the five psychic powers. Also one interesting detail - during parinibbana Buddha entered 9th samapatti, and then went back to 4th and passed away on 4th jhana. Why did he do that? I think this was his...
by Zom
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:13 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 30
Views: 541

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

is Susima an Arhat? If not, how can the monks be? But if Susima is an Arhat (which I think is what the commentary suggests), He was not even a stream-winner before asking. Only in the process he became one. I agree, though, that there are lots of examples of texts where only 4 Jhanas are mentioned ...
by Zom
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:29 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Is it okay to read buddhist text while i am using the toilet, having a smoke?
Replies: 21
Views: 294

Re: Is it okay to read buddhist text while i am using the toilet, having a smoke?

Ive been reminded by a few Mahayana layfolk to treat the dhamma with respect and as such only leave Buddhist text in clean places. Such as, no putting any Buddhist book behind the toilet etc. I do not know whether they are just expressing their opinion or it is a real rule in Mahayana Buddhism. Doe...
by Zom
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Do i have to let Wat Pah Nanachat, Wat Suan Mokh know i am coming beforehand?
Replies: 8
Views: 100

Re: Do i have to let Wat Pah Nanachat, Wat Suan Mokh know i am coming beforehand?

Has anyone just showed up and have been allowed to stay? Looking to stay for about a month. I've been there in Suan Mokh some 3-4 times, I don't even remember now, it was quite some time ago. Back in those days you didn't need to inform them about your visit. And you could stay as a guest in a gues...
by Zom
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Stream Entry
Replies: 62
Views: 795

Re: Stream Entry

How will I know when I've experienced stream entry? I'm a lay person and I'm just beginning to meditate 1-2x per day for 20 minutes each time following the breath and being mindful, and my efforts have proved to show improvement. I have been meditating for years (inconsistently) and now with consis...
by Zom
Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 30
Views: 541

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

I believe it was Gombrich who suggested exactly that --- that the Susima Sutta is a forgery. It is not only about Susima. There are many more. From what I can tell, the Susima Sutta doesn't actually say that it's possible for Arhats to lack the formless attainments, as the Buddha never validates th...
by Zom
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice
Replies: 83
Views: 948

Re: Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice

I am confused. Can anyone weigh in .. how does panna come before practice? We practice to gain panna not the other way around If we take suttas, there are 2 levels of pannya, initial and final. No "in-between", really. Final one is that of arahantship, transcendental wisdom. Initial one is that one...
by Zom
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Hillary gave Away all our Uranium!
Replies: 16
Views: 266

Re: Hillary gave Away all our Uranium!

Our new President would never do anything to help Russia! Frustration has grown within Congress over Trump's apparent reluctance to act on highly popular and bipartisan demands to punish Russia for alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election and for its military activities in Ukraine.Whi...
by Zom
Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is the difference between Samma Sati and Yoniso Manasikara?
Replies: 99
Views: 1130

Re: What is the difference between Samma Sati and Yoniso Manasikara?

No. Of course not. Where did I ever imply this? Since Nibbana is called The Deathless, obviously the attainment of Nibbana knows no death (marana). You said that Buddha actually didn't die in Kusinara, while at the same time you agreed that "his aggregates" ended. Then, obviously, you either imply ...
by Zom
Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is the difference between Samma Sati and Yoniso Manasikara?
Replies: 99
Views: 1130

Re: What is the difference between Samma Sati and Yoniso Manasikara?

This very Buddha may have passed away (parinibbāyi) at Kusinara but it appears this very Buddha could not have "died" ("marana") because the suttas appear to strongly suggest that Buddhas are not subject to "marana". Therefore, I think it is utterly pointless & even misguided for you to insist as y...
by Zom
Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is the difference between Samma Sati and Yoniso Manasikara?
Replies: 99
Views: 1130

Re: What is the difference between Samma Sati and Yoniso Manasikara?

What happened at Kusinara is described in SN 22.85, namely, the impermanent & unsatisfactory five aggregates ceased and gone to its end. Good. Then I guess now you can get what is "Buddha" according to conventional truth .) And this very Buddha passed away in Kusinara. And this very stream-winner w...