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by Zom
Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2182
Views: 94066

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

Again, here is how to read the text correctly, as I say, as Ven. Bodhi says, as ancient Theravadin commentators said: "What do you think: Do you regard the [SELF of] Tathagata as form-feeling-perception-fabrications-consciousness?" "No, my friend." "Do you regard the [SELF of] Tathagata as that whic...
by Zom
Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2182
Views: 94066

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

Don't say that, friend Yamaka. Don't misrepresent the Blessed One. It's not good to misrepresent the Blessed One, for the Blessed One would not say, 'A monk with no more effluents, on the break-up of the body, is annihilated, perishes, & does not exist after death.' I've (and traditional Theravada ...
by Zom
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2182
Views: 94066

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

Both Nibbana must be experienced while unconditioned.....yet both are real.
Of course real. Arahant's mind is real. Cessation of existence, including arahant's mind, is real too.
by Zom
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2182
Views: 94066

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

Again Zom you're preaching annihilation
Again, you are showing that you still attach to sakkaya-ditthi, which are wrong views.
by Zom
Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2182
Views: 94066

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

then wouldn't calling it the mere distrution of the defilments be going against this, placing it within the relm of conditions? It being contingent uppon the absence of something else. Almost exactly the same as what Ven. Bodhi was describing, Nibbana not being conditioned by the practice of the Ei...
by Zom
Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:23 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What music are you listening to right now?
Replies: 1981
Views: 172467

Re: What music are you listening to right now?

Some wonderful covers by Andy Rehfeldt :tongue: :D





by Zom
Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate
Replies: 15
Views: 275

Re: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate

Back to topic: this is how healthy nations should react to government corruption and lie:

8-)
by Zom
Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:20 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate
Replies: 15
Views: 275

Re: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate

Sounds like an exaggeration to me. 22 mln of people with salary less than 160$ per month. Where's exaggeration in that? Also, lots of poverty in the USA. https://poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/what-cu ... ted-states US poverty differs from Russian .) From this link: 2016 poverty thresholds were: $12,486 f...
by Zom
Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:04 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate
Replies: 15
Views: 275

Re: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate

So greed is the mark of what is right & true? Poverty and slavery is not a mark of rightness for sure .) But, anyway, does this statement of yours mean that americans have less greed than russians, since no one among them wants to go to Russia? ))) If Russia was so bad, how did these emigrants obta...
by Zom
Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:56 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate
Replies: 15
Views: 275

Re: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate

My family hailed from Kiev and Minsk. They migrated to the USA around 1917. Lucky for you ) The best people keep migrating from here all the time. Best scientists, best technicians, best "minds". As one famous russian rocker (who's been in its every corner) said - Russia is full of wonderful people...
by Zom
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate
Replies: 15
Views: 275

Re: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate

If everything sounds so similar to you, consider this one little fact: Thousands of Russians migrate to US every year (~250.000 Russians are playing annual "Green Card" lottery for US citizenship). No americans migrate to Russia every year 8-) The only people who migrate to Russia are those from bro...
by Zom
Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.
Replies: 38
Views: 656

Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.

Craving, clinging, ignorance, delusion, conceit... everything fits here .)
by Zom
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.
Replies: 38
Views: 656

Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.

I can let go, because it's not annihilation
You will let go until you pick it up again in this case ) Craving is bad, get rid of it.
by Zom
Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.
Replies: 38
Views: 656

Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.

annihilation cannot be a worthy goal

nirvana is a worthy goal

hence nirvana cannot be annihilation

to seek annihilation is suicidal, madness
Don't worry. There is nothing valuable to keep - cravings, clingings and ignorance included 8-) So you can safely let go of everything.
by Zom
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:36 pm
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate
Replies: 15
Views: 275

Re: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate

What's wrong with your country? 1. Unimaginable corruption on all levels of government, including Putin himself with (at the very minimum) 2 billion dollars stolen money . 2. Neo-totalitarism, persecution of all political forces which offer an alternative to Putin. This results even in murders . 3....
by Zom
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:12 am
Forum: News, Current Events & Politics
Topic: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate
Replies: 15
Views: 275

Re: Armenian PM Sarkisian Resigns, Thousands Celebrate

Ye, very nice. Our country will be the last prolly. Too many tv-zombified people. When they all die out, young generation will do the change.
by Zom
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.
Replies: 38
Views: 656

Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.

how can Contact upon which the delineation of Consciousness depends occur without Four Primary Elements having a footing? No footing means they don't settle inside the mind, at least, in Buddha's answer. Why? Because craving for them is no more in arahant's mind. If we add your [cravings for] it re...
by Zom
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: middle path and the three views
Replies: 6
Views: 163

Re: middle path and the three views

I am confused about one thing The confusion is about middle path and the three views being, nonbeing and being-and-nonbeing. This is not really that hard to understand. All wrong views on this matter are based entirely and without an exception on so called "self-views" or "views about self", also k...
by Zom
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.
Replies: 38
Views: 656

Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.

Essentially, you seem to be asserting the Buddha taught about a secret 7th consciousness to a householder named Kevatta in DN 11 You've got it wrong. Vinnanam Anidassanam can be any kind of 6-class consciousness, which is devoid of greed, hatred, and delusion. There is no "special nibbanic consciou...
by Zom
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam. General Theravada Version.
Replies: 38
Views: 656

Re: Vinnanam Anidassanam

Here long & short
coarse & fine
fair & foul
name & form
are all brought to an end.
How to read it:

Here, [cravings for] long & short
coarse & fine
fair & foul
name & form -
are all brought to an end.