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by Zom
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

how is this different from the statement "after death there is nothing more, all that was is annihilated and there is no more existence". In other words how is Parinibbana of an Arahant different from the idea that naive materialists would hold to be "non-existence after death"? No difference, of c...
by Zom
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

However, do you think knowledge and vision of release can be discerned without a mental faculty (of some sort). How do you explain away “knowledge” and “vision”. Here, the Buddha says in AN 11.1 Can be discerned retrospectively. 1. what is the difference between parinibbana and annihilation of a be...
by Zom
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Please correct me if I have any misunderstandings. Everything is correct. As for "being", a small but important remark, is that there is in reality actually no "being", but what people call "being" is simply "dukkha". Hence arahant Vajira said this: “Why now do you assume ‘a being’? This is a heap ...
by Zom
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

i think Zom you think that in a context of entire life, like after cessation of perception you may get hit by a rock and you don't feel a thing. I think you are missing the point of dependent origination. You think that after nibbana there is no dependent origination anymore? Vice versa, it seems y...
by Zom
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

MN 59. How can one be non-percipient of pleasure? That's exactly the question those non-buddhist ascetics asked (they asked about feeling, but feeling comes along with perception). Buddha answers: " 'It's not the case, friends, that the Blessed One describes only pleasant feeling as included under ...
by Zom
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Is one non-percipient in parinibbana?
The very idea of "one in parinibbana" (or, final nibbana, to be more precise) is a wrong view (eternalist self-view).
by Zom
Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:55 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Bhikkhuni in the First Buddhist Council
Replies: 23
Views: 301

Re: Bhikkhuni in the First Buddhist Council

Did Upali recite the Vinaya that applied to both the Bhikkhu and Bhikkhuni? Yes. Suttas sometimes mention wise bhikkhus, who know both Vinayas. I think only male arahants assembled there. And yes, 500 means just "many". But still, this was only a small part of a bigger Sangha. As for the word, I re...
by Zom
Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

two can play at that game 8-) This principle I have discovered is deep, hard to see, hard to understand, peaceful, sublime, beyond the scope of reason, subtle, comprehensible to the astute. But people like attachment, they love it and enjoy it. It’s hard for them to see this thing; that is, specific...
by Zom
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

You appear to be claiming that a being is annihilated in the cessation of feeling and perception. In "nirodha" (to call it short) all mentality ceases, stops. Hence the name: cessation of feeling and perception. Feeling and perception are interconnected with vinnyana, as explicitly said in MN 43: “...
by Zom
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

What I can recall is only Anagami and Arahant can enter the state of cessation of perception and feeling. However, when Anagami enters this state and emerge they become Arahants. Actually, no, DooDoot cited the sutta -- https://suttacentral.net/an5.166/en/sujato there is consciousness in Nirvana Et...
by Zom
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

The Question still remains , the cessation of feeling perception is not belong to the 31 plane of existence , why ? Because it is nibbana, which is not in 31 plane of existence. The second question is , does the Nibbana can be experienced ? If Nibbana is an Ayatana , it is a state . So , Nibbana is...
by Zom
Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

The suttas appear clear but your personal reading & interpretation of them is questionable. Ok, what is cessation of feeling and perception? It is where all kinds of feelings cease. Now, AN 9.34 directly says thay in nibbana nothing is felt, no feelings in there. In what meditative attainment nothi...
by Zom
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 179
Views: 1982

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

I have read them. Why argue, when they are clear on the matter? ) Nibbana is the destruction/uprooting of the taints via seeing with wisdom. Where as Nirodha-Samapatti does not necessarily uproot the taints. Seeing nibbana does not guarantee the destruction of all defilements at once, as I've shown...