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by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:25 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6089
Views: 422953

Re: the great rebirth debate

snip Lazy eye I understand your objections and strongly disagree with you. There is an abundance of evidence available that supports rebirth,the fact that you don't understand the science involved is not an indictment of the evidence. The kind of higher brain function that is reported by the NDE da...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6089
Views: 422953

Re: the great rebirth debate

Alex, yet again you equate brain and mind, they are two separate things. A radio and radio signal are two separate things, yet if I smash the radio, the signal cannot be clearly processed. Its the same as your drug and alcohol example. Without radio, one cannot hear the song. So without the brain, ...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:50 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?
Replies: 93
Views: 9505

Re: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?

I think it is what Ben said Coyote..I think its parallel evolution. If you get a bunch of people in caves..some in the Himalayas, some in Greece and if those guys watch their breath and calm their minds then certain results will follow. How those people then interpret those results may vary. There ...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6089
Views: 422953

Re: the great rebirth debate

Mind is NOT caused by the brain. The mind exists independent of the body. Then how come that when person takes enough alcohol, drugs, or brain is damaged due to disease - the mind ALWAYS changes? There have been NDE cases where the patient's brain was removed from the body. Was the brain put back i...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:45 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6089
Views: 422953

Re: the great rebirth debate

Alex you are confusing the mind with the brain. Even if mind is caused by brain, when brain is gone, so is the mind. They are two separate phenomena. Then how do they interact? This is extremely tough question. I can expand on this. Regarding NDE: The problem is that NONE of those subjects actually...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6089
Views: 422953

Re: the great rebirth debate

There is plenty of evidence for rebirth (unlike the example you likened it with) and it is a very logical proposition. IMO it is illogical to disbelieve rebirth based on the data we have available. Please post it or PM to me. So far I have seen zero evidence. To me, belief in rebirth is as justifia...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:52 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?
Replies: 93
Views: 9505

Re: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?

Its not weak at all Kim, its called circumstantial evidence. Sometimes people want to think that someone will discover a time capsule with all the detailed step by step processes outlined whereby A led to B. It doesn't happen like that. The reality is, there is no history of monasticism of any kind...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:23 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?
Replies: 93
Views: 9505

Re: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?

Hi, Coyote, I know the parallels are very close but I have never come across any evidence that European monasticism was based on Indian models. Can you point me to your sources? :namaste: Kim There were Greeks present at early Buddhist councils, so no question that Buddhism was the genesis of Europ...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:20 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Craving stillness.
Replies: 10
Views: 1935

Re: Craving stillness.

How do you fight the craving to want more stillness? I know that craving is my problem, but for some reason I get to certain points in my meditation and I "grasp" onto these points of stillness and then they fade away. I feel like it's maybe a problem with my perspective. Please, any help? You shou...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2132
Views: 73336

Re: Nibbana = universal consciousness?

I have an inkling that any response a Theravadin might make to concepts of Mahayanist eternalism would be thwarted in their minds with the catch all concept they have of emptiness. 'You can say whatever you like, but that's still a relative truth and is ultimately empty, as is everything. :sage: ' ...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6089
Views: 422953

Re: the great rebirth debate

I agree partially with your opinion. But I don't think you're quite right about this point: if people disbelieve, its only due to skeptical doubt which is one of the samyojanas. I can say with some confidence that if I have not embraced a belief in rebirth, it is because I have yet to see a compell...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2132
Views: 73336

Re: Nibbana = universal consciousness?

I have an inkling that any response a Theravadin might make to concepts of Mahayanist eternalism would be thwarted in their minds with the catch all concept they have of emptiness. 'You can say whatever you like, but that's still a relative truth and is ultimately empty, as is everything. :sage: ' ...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 115952

Re: The causes for wisdom

robertk wrote:
Discuss baby issue with wife on phone.
Here's the problem right here. Either you heard about the Buddha's teachings late in the game, or you've got the wrong idea of how we should be practicing!

With metta
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:57 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: the great vegetarian debate
Replies: 4229
Views: 258777

Re: the great vegetarian debate

I believe it is no longer simply an issue of preventing cruelty to animals. Resources are so scarce that our current habits will destroy us all. I find myself less and less willing to eat anything that we do not grow or cook ourselves, or comes from local ingredients. Mass production = mass extinct...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6089
Views: 422953

Re: the great rebirth debate

It is my OPINION that if one doesn't believe/understand rebirth as literal rebirth, then one doesn't understand the 1st noble truth fully. I further contend that until one has strong faith (or knowledge) in the truth of rebirth, one cannot call themself a Buddhist. Its integral to the teaching, and ...
by mogg
Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:31 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?
Replies: 93
Views: 9505

Re: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?

Monasticism - thats one thing we can say with more certainty was influenced by Indian religions such as Buddhism, though I don't know much about the subject. Hi, Coyote, I know the parallels are very close but I have never come across any evidence that European monasticism was based on Indian model...
by mogg
Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:39 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?
Replies: 93
Views: 9505

Re: Did Christianity "borrow" from Buddhism?

I was interested in this idea 5 or 6 years ago, triggered by a lot of new age friends who were keen on drawing historical links and explaining the missing decades of Jesus' life. I poked around to see what I could find, but unfortunately I learned that there is no historical evidence that Buddhism ...
by mogg
Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:41 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Ucchedavada (annihilationism) - what does it actually mean?
Replies: 81
Views: 12315

Re: Ucchedavada (annihilationism) - what does it actually me

Greetings, People who are beyond such views nonetheless are sick to death of being accused by crusading fatuous dilletanti of being annihiliationists. Yes, hence my reasons for starting this topic and keeping it distinct from the melee of the Great Rebirth Debate. Even myself, I've been accused of ...
by mogg
Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:20 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2132
Views: 73336

Re: Nibbana = universal consciousness?

Ñāṇa wrote:
mogg wrote:Nibbana is not the same as universal consciousness (as taught in the suttas).
No, it isn't. Which is what I've said throughout.
I wouldn't expect anything less Geoff. Your website is excellent btw.
by mogg
Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:34 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Problems with no-self
Replies: 90
Views: 7742

Re: Problems with no-self

Good post Bhante :twothumbsup:

Referencing the video posted above, that was meant as a joke right? Surely nobody could believe that someone who devotes that much attention to their hair could be an Arahant!