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by frank k
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: An Anapanasati Question
Replies: 30
Views: 1366

Re: An Anapanasati Question

... How can they do Jhana without a physical body to feel bliss? ;) Try reading some suttas. It shouldn't take too long to find ones where Buddha is conversing with Brahma, with involves ears and hearing, emitting audible sound, visible form to the Buddha, etc. Brahmas operate in rūpa, which is phy...
by frank k
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:28 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Abandoning pleasure & pain
Replies: 102
Views: 3024

Re: Abandoning pleasure & pain

… None of this answers my question. you asked: why does someone in the 4th Jhāna not feel pain if an insect bites him? and I responded one DOES feel pain in 4th jhana, because the 5 senses operate. if the pain is overwhelming, it knocks one out of 4th jhana. If it's mild pain, one can ignore it. Vi...
by frank k
Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: An Anapanasati Question
Replies: 30
Views: 1366

Re: An Anapanasati Question

So you're saying brahma gods, who don't need to breathe, do suddenly grow a nose, lungs, and start watching a breath at their nose when they do metta and brahma viharas? No, but is it the case they don't breathe? The gods of the brahma realm have no gender, no need to eat food, no need to breathe, ...
by frank k
Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: An Anapanasati Question
Replies: 30
Views: 1366

Re: An Anapanasati Question

... To get as close as possible to what the Buddha means, you need to consult the earliest definition. And in this case, the earliest definition is found in the Vibhaṅga, and it says, "at the tip of the nose or at the lip": https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5636 :anjali...
by frank k
Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:40 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Abandoning pleasure & pain
Replies: 102
Views: 3024

Re: Abandoning pleasure & pain

...I think you understood what I meant by "tradition" and "absorbed". I suspect what you might mean, but am not sure. If you're asking what a legitimate EBT interpretation of 4 jhāna formula means, MN 111 and MN 137 make it absolutely clear there's a physical body experiencing p...
by frank k
Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: An Anapanasati Question
Replies: 30
Views: 1366

Re: An Anapanasati Question

Another problem with the [wrong] literal spatial interpretation of parimukha, which I never saw anyone point out, is 'pari-mukham satim upatthavetva' is saying the 'establishing of sati' is 'parimukha', not "the in breath and out breath" is parimukha. Sati means remembering and applying th...
by frank k
Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Abandoning pleasure & pain
Replies: 102
Views: 3024

Re: Abandoning pleasure & pain

... I’m fine with my original question. Your original question is completely vague and uses your own lexicon where no one else would know for certain what you're talking about. "traditional" means what? What the Buddha spoke, or what the commentators who came 500 years later said contradi...
by frank k
Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: An Anapanasati Question
Replies: 30
Views: 1366

Re: An Anapanasati Question

And what about Brahma realm gods, who don't even breathe or eat food? How do Brahma gods do metta and other 4 brahmaviharas without watching the breath at their nostril? It’s said when there is the 1st Jhana one cannot speak, so how do they communicate? According to the commentaries it’s because th...
by frank k
Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: An Anapanasati Question
Replies: 30
Views: 1366

Re: An Anapanasati Question

And what about Brahma realm gods, who don't even breathe or eat food?

How do Brahma gods do metta and other 4 brahmaviharas without watching the breath at their nostril?
by frank k
Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: An Anapanasati Question
Replies: 30
Views: 1366

Re: An Anapanasati Question

Thanks to everyone who responded. I learned a new Pali word! But I think the introduction of yet another Pali term does not increase clarity. I tend to think the tip of the nose is not the intended meaning. Here's why. Any reasonable interpretation of ``him'' would include all body parts, including...
by frank k
Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Abandoning pleasure & pain
Replies: 102
Views: 3024

Re: Abandoning pleasure & pain

It is said that in the 4th Jhāna one abandons pleasure and pain. How does this work from a non-absorbed Jhāna point of view? From the traditional perspective pleasure is abandoned in the access to the 4th Jhāna, where there is no physical sensation anymore. From a non-absorbed POV why does someone ...
by frank k
Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:17 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What is more reliable? Visuddhi Magga or Vimuttimagga?
Replies: 49
Views: 8894

Re: What is more reliable? Visuddhi Magga or Vimuttimagga?

Dmytro, in the link you posted, I can only find content from Volume 1 of the Vimuttimagga book, which ends at Page 512. Will the Volume II of the book be uploaded separately? When everyone has fully developed samādhi and is ready for the wisdom teachings in Volume II ... (joking) :) Really, that's ...
by frank k
Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: How do you radiate mettā?
Replies: 14
Views: 1205

Re: How do you radiate mettā?

Not sure why, but I have a hard time imagining ‘radiating’ mettā in six or ten directions, or in any direction at all, above, below, across and so on Do you have any advice for this? I can and have experienced good will cultivation but it doesn’t seem to manifest as going thru space time For purpos...
by frank k
Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Samadhi
Replies: 47
Views: 2177

Re: Samadhi

... No, just point it out yourself. An accusation of not providing something is in no way slander. Santa is perfectly entitled to claim that, and you are perfectly entitled to rebut that claim. Peaceably, though, and without posting your entire oeuvre which I have just deleted. I know moderation is...
by frank k
Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Samadhi
Replies: 47
Views: 2177

Re: Samadhi

Moderators, can you do something about @Santa100 slandering people's reputation accusing them of not providing sutta excerpts to support a line of reasoning, when I was simply providing a link instead of just cutting and pasting excerpts?