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by frank k
Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:27 pm
Forum: Dhammic Stories
Topic: fortune favors the virtuous
Replies: 0
Views: 80

fortune favors the virtuous

https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2020/04/fortune-favors-virtuous-collection-of.html excerpt: What notable events with good karma ripening have you lived through, personally witnessed, or heard about from reliable sources/friends? Please share. Whenever possible, please cite links, references t...
by frank k
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Seeing things as they are
Replies: 3
Views: 222

Re: Seeing things as they are

from SN 7.9, also notice that one is always in jhana and samadhi (all postures, all activities, not just formal sitting practice). https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2020/03/sn-79-lucid24-24-hours-day-7-days-week.html I'm not sure how you make the link with vaci sankhara with the chanting and jha...
by frank k
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas
Replies: 38
Views: 3824

Re: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas

Look at what words he uses to translate vitakka in the first two jhanas. The example he uses with the musical instrument, you can not do that in VRJ (vism. redefinition of jhana). While he may have a misunderstanding about vitakka's role of vaci-sankhara in first jhana (such as mentally chanting 'ea...
by frank k
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas
Replies: 38
Views: 3824

Re: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas

If you've cut off thoughts when you enter jhana, then you're not in first jhana, you're in second jhana. http://lucid24.org/sted/8aam/8samadhi/vitakka/book/index.html When you examine all the evidence, it's very clear what V&V means in EBT, early abhidhamma, Vimt., and even most of Vism. Greetings F...
by frank k
Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:56 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas
Replies: 38
Views: 3824

Re: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas

16aps anapana can culminate in any of the 4 jhanas, it doesn't have to just be first jhana, and even if it was, it doesn't establish the nature of vitakka being different from first jhana. Your logic is flawed. The same type of logical fallacy is used by people to claim that samma sati and samma vay...
by frank k
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas
Replies: 38
Views: 3824

Re: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas

Frank, do you speak Pali? And do you see any problem with a non-Pali-speaker critiquing the translations of fluent Pali speakers? Do you think you could be missing something? James do you speak pali? Do you see any problem when fluent pali speakers and accomplished Buddhist meditation masters like ...
by frank k
Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: detailed audit showing even in Vism. vitakka in 31 body parts and first jhana means 'thinking', not 'initial application
Replies: 10
Views: 1745

Re: detailed audit showing even in Vism. vitakka in 31 body parts and first jhana means 'thinking', not 'initial applica

Ok, not talking to you anymore. You are clearly only looking to misinterpret data to feed your preconceived views instead of advancing your understanding. Why even go through the charade? Just admit to yourself you're attached to views which have no evidence. At least be kind to the rest of the worl...
by frank k
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas
Replies: 38
Views: 3824

Re: DN 22: vitakka and vicāra as part of the subverbal mental activity hierarchy and 4 jhānas

obviously there isn't craving for pleasures in jhana. The point is how the pali word vitakka is being used in that entire sutta. The passage on craving is just to show that 'vitakka' in hierarchical ranking is not in the subverbal range, as people with Vism. understanding of vitakka claim. So it wou...
by frank k
Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: detailed audit showing even in Vism. vitakka in 31 body parts and first jhana means 'thinking', not 'initial application
Replies: 10
Views: 1745

Re: detailed audit showing even in Vism. vitakka in 31 body parts and first jhana means 'thinking', not 'initial applica

Just to clarify something for Volo: Yes there is a difference between vitakka of ordinary non-jhana discursive thinking, and the vitakka of first jhana, and that passage directly states the former is surpressed, and doesn't specifically address the different kind of discursive nature of vitakka in f...
by frank k
Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: detailed audit showing even in Vism. vitakka in 31 body parts and first jhana means 'thinking', not 'initial application
Replies: 10
Views: 1745

Re: detailed audit showing even in Vism. vitakka in 31 body parts and first jhana means 'thinking', not 'initial applica

That's a tough passage to understand, but I don't really understand how that supports your case. ...So, Vimuttimagga is indeed in a good accordance with Vism in treating vitakka, and clearly distinguishes vitakka as jhāna factor from vitakka as thinking. definition of discursive: 1. digressing from ...
by frank k
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:20 pm
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: AN 3.60, DN 28: vitakka and vicara when doing mind reading, B. Sujato's fallacy
Replies: 5
Views: 639

AN 3.60, DN 28: vitakka and vicara when doing mind reading, B. Sujato's fallacy

https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2020/03/an-360-dn-28-vitakka-and-vicara-when.html Breaking down step by step, B. Sujato's fallacy in his translation and interpretation of vitakka and vicara in these two suttas. This is of interest to you, if you don't understand the difference between jhāna a...
by frank k
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:18 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: AN 3.60, DN 28: vitakka and vicara when doing mind reading, B. Sujato's fallacy
Replies: 0
Views: 1113

AN 3.60, DN 28: vitakka and vicara when doing mind reading, B. Sujato's fallacy

https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2020/03/an-360-dn-28-vitakka-and-vicara-when.html Breaking down step by step, B. Sujato's fallacy in his translation and interpretation of vitakka and vicara in these two suttas. This is of interest to you, if you don't understand the difference between jhāna a...
by frank k
Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Favourite Nikaya
Replies: 31
Views: 1041

Re: Favourite Nikaya

https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2020/02/which-of-5-nikayas-is-your-favorite.html (the article link above, same as excerpt below but with hyperlinks to all the suttas referenced) IMO, You really want to read as many of the suttas in all the nikayas (with some exceptions in KN) and decide for y...
by frank k
Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: how vism. corrupts simile of bird spreading wings for vitakka and vicara
Replies: 3
Views: 1001

Re: how vism. corrupts simile of bird spreading wings for vitakka and vicara

I've updated that blog article to contain a direct link to this KN Pe passage. http://lucid24.org/kn/kn-pe/jhana/index.html updated article with cool images showing difference between EBT and vism. https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2020/02/v-vitakka-vicara-simile-of-bird.html I tried in vain to ...
by frank k
Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:33 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: In Pali, is there a general rule for how to translate/interpret negations, e.g. (subha, asubha)
Replies: 4
Views: 654

In Pali, is there a general rule for how to translate/interpret negations, e.g. (subha, asubha)

In Pali, is there a general rule for how to translate/interpret negations, e.g. (subha, asubha) After all these years, I still have no idea. For example: In English, if we contrast beautiful with non-beautiful, non-beautiful has a broad spectrum from not beautiful at all, all the way to extreme beau...