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by dhammastudier
Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:42 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: see ya later
Replies: 9
Views: 807

see ya later

ok i give up. i'm probably not going to post on here anymore unless there's a question that cannot be answered any other way. not that this is a bad thing but there are too many overly critical people and too many micro managers on here. again, not a bad thing but not for me. i prefer a more open an...
by dhammastudier
Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:40 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

ok i give up. i'm probably not going to post on here anymore unless there's a question that cannot be answered any other way. not that this is a bad thing but there are too many overly critical people and too many micro managers on here. again, not a bad thing but not for me. i prefer a more open an...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:43 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Punna: "Venerable sir, this naked dog-duty ascetic Seniya does what is hard to do: he eats his food when it is thrown on the ground. That dog duty has long been taken up and practiced by him. What will be his destination? What will be his future course?" Buddha: "On the dissolution of the body, aft...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:43 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

I think these are good points, Zac. I'm just wondering... what would you say if someone asked this question - "According to Mathematics, what happens after you die?" Where I'm at right now (doesn't necessarily mean that I have the right view, yet), I get the same impression when someone asks me - "...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:29 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

I have never understood why an "intermediate state" couldn't simply be a short lifespan in one of these realms, such as a minor deva realm for example. The deva's lifespan is very long from what I recall... something like tens of thousand of human years. That can't be called an intermediate state, ...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:17 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

You should take it easy, Zac. :tongue: None of what the people said in here was about you, or what you said... just the way the question was phrased. Yes, I understood the question the first time, don't worry. The problem was that the "you" part of the question was taken as a "self" by some people ...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:21 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

The Blessed One said: "There is the case, student, where a woman or man is a killer of living beings, brutal, bloody-handed, given to killing & slaying, showing no mercy to living beings. Through having adopted & carried out such actions, on the break-up of the body, after death, he/she reappears i...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:06 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

geeez why are you trying to goad people into an argument? because i started this thread, asking a simple question and it was turned into a debate (argument) because i used the word "rebirth". i got a looot of posts about how this was wrong. now another user is backing me up with a quote from the ca...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:35 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

"I recollected my manifold past lives... I saw beings passing away & re-appearing..." The Buddha had no qualms about speaking of I or you being reborn. It seems to only be folks on internet forums who have such qualms. Personally, zac, I found your original question clear and easy to understand. An...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:11 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Actually, it could have been those footnotes Retro. I'll dig it out later tonight. I just have to rush off in a little while to group-sit! metta Ben Hello Ben, Maybe this? =============================================== From Venerable Bodhi There definitely seem to be suggestions in the suttas that...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:08 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

...the problem here, if it is a problem(i don't think so),... thanx, i don't either. i go to one temple frequently and have been to others and have had maaaaaaaany conversations with monks, nuns, and fellow laymen/women and have NEVER had as many microscopic "critiques" on my words than on this sit...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:05 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

What happens after death? Ignorance (volitional formations, consciousness, clinging, existence, another birth, death again, still ignorant...) Is there an escape? what i'm saying is: is there a temporary state between death and rebirth in which the consciousness is active? like you die, then slip i...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:55 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

I recall the Theravada argument against an intermediate state rests largely on said state being "other than any of the birth realms". I have never understood why an "intermediate state" couldn't simply be a short lifespan in one of these realms, such as a minor deva realm for example. In other word...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:53 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

ALL THAT TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT MY ORIGINAL TOPIC WAS WORDED RIGHT! I NEVER CLEARED ANYTHING UP BUT JUST KEPT INSISTING THE ORIGINAL MADE SENSE. NOW PEOPLE ARE BACK ON TOPIC AND CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THE ORIGINAL ALL ALONG!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:41 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

"I recollected my manifold past lives... I saw beings passing away & re-appearing..." The Buddha had no qualms about speaking of I or you being reborn. It seems to only be folks on internet forums who have such qualms. Personally, zac, I found your original question clear and easy to understand. An...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:34 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Greetings Zac, ok, but let's say everyone talking on this topic was at a dharma talk in a big auditorium. Then it's necessarily going to be pitched at the lowest common denominator. Do you want a lowest common denominator understanding, or do you want to strive to develop the sublime, profound unde...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:29 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Greetings Zac, ok, but let's say everyone talking on this topic was at a dharma talk in a big auditorium. Then it's necessarily going to be pitched at the lowest common denominator. Do you want a lowest common denominator understanding, or do you want to strive to develop the sublime, profound unde...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:54 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

i think everyone knows what i mean. Greetings Zac, The reason I ask, is because the reality is arising and cessation. What we would conventionally call "death" is a concept. As I quoted earlier... All concepts of 'going', 'coming', 'being born', 'growing old' and 'dying' are to be found in the prol...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:33 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

Greetings zac, i'd really love to hear more about what everyone knows about the buddha's teachings on death. pretty please? Death of what, though? Metta, Retro. :) so... i'm not sure where to go from here. we are going to micro manage the way things are worded to the point that i have to explain wh...
by dhammastudier
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:22 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?
Replies: 97
Views: 10621

Re: according to the pali canon, what happens after you die?

can we please get :focus: ?

i'd really love to hear more about what everyone knows about the buddha's teachings on death. pretty please?