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by pt1
Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:27 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Introduction to cetasikas?
Replies: 5
Views: 1726

Re: Introduction to cetasikas?

Cetasikas - by Nina Van Gorkom

https://archive.org/details/Cetasikas

She discusses all 52, drawing from different abhidhamma texts and commentaries

Best wishes
by pt1
Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:36 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Looking for hardcopy books
Replies: 5
Views: 1147

Re: Looking for hardcopy books

I just finished a 10 day solo retreat deepening my Vipassana meditation practice. I'm looking to increase my understanding of Abhidhamma and my teacher has recommended a couple books by Nina Van Gorkom: Cetasikas and Abhidhamma in Daily Life . I have found both books online, but have not been able ...
by pt1
Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

When it comes to effort, wisdom, development of wisdom: (1) It’s probably clear by now that the arising of a wholesome state of mind is thought to correspond to what is meant by many instances in the suttas when the arousing of effort, concentration, mindfulness, etc, is described and encouraged. S...
by pt1
Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

And, of course, that can include the “wish/decision” to follow/to listen to/to take seriously Sujin’s teachings. Yes, so (ideally) it's not about this or that action but awareness of the present mental state. Why would you think that following her teachings would be any more wholesome than followin...
by pt1
Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

The last post in my series trying to give a summary of what K.S. and her students teach, apologies for the length: When it comes to effort, wisdom, development of wisdom: (1) It’s probably clear by now that the arising of a wholesome state of mind is thought to correspond to what is meant by many in...
by pt1
Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

. . . Thank you for all the effort you put into writing this, but I have to say that reading it makes me glad I do not follow Sujin. I prefer a view where one can actually make an effort to practice what the Buddha taught. No worries, it’s good to discuss the differences so we at least know who’s s...
by pt1
Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

Regarding the practice that K.S. and her students advocate (hopefully robertk and DF will correct me if I’m wrong): (a) The phrases I hear most often have to do with being aware right now. So, awareness in daily life is encouraged and I take it this is largely in reference to satipatthana sutta. Thi...
by pt1
Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

There is no self right? Again, this is an intellectual position. Which you are taking as foundational, and drawing out further lines of reasoning from it, and you end up in a position of near fatalism. I say "near" because actually your position is simply incoherent. You deny the efficacy of effort...
by pt1
Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

I suppose one could interpret it that way, but if üse is taken to refer to ünderstanding", should not the same be said for sexual intercourse, per the same sutta - This body comes into being through sexual intercourse. Sexual intercourse is to be abandoned. With regard to sexual intercourse, the Bu...
by pt1
Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

Thanks for your replies. How do you know your mindfulness is "far from undivided"? How is it possible to know "far from undivided" but not know "evil states"? Is it possible to know the doubt? Food for thought. This is too much. Don't you know that greed, anger and delusion are bad? Coarse levels sh...
by pt1
Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

Thanks, sorry for being unclear - I think my problem is that with such underdeveloped faculties, intentionally applying the advice in the sutta ... Then the monk should investigate: 'Are there any evil, unskillful mental qualities unabandoned by me that would be an obstruction for me were I to die i...
by pt1
Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

In regards to all above, perhaps the main issue worth considering is how under/developed are my faculties? and that we actually have a very low level of wisdom. Is the underdeveloped/low level idea encouraged? What are we measuring against? My take on it was: From what I gather, it seems the very b...
by pt1
Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

Here's a ringing endorsement of using craving and a fetter to cross over - "'This body comes into being through craving. And yet it is by relying on craving that craving is to be abandoned.' Thus was it said. And in reference to what was it said? There is the case, sister, where a monk hears, 'The ...
by pt1
Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

So, you would not agree with robertk's highly dismissive and bitingly negative assessment of meditation practice: http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=15952&start=80#p228511" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ? ... What I find unfortunate in this is that KS does not really se...
by pt1
Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

Glad to continue the discussion. From what I undetrstand robertk is not a KS neophyte. Yes, he’s been at it a lot longer than me, so I haven’t mentioned him among us of the newer crop. I think he’s actually quite good in using both terminologies, and in fact, I recall him criticising me on several o...
by pt1
Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

And many more, and the issue of conventional language was never really directly addressed by the KS followers here. So, maybe you can clarify this significant issue. I find more seasoned K.S. students have no problems using conventional speak. It’s a bit different for more recent students like me (...
by pt1
Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

I am not deliberately in my responses to robertk, Virgo/Kevin, and dhamma follower trying to misrepresent what they are saying. As I asked you once already, have you actually read the exchanges in this thread? Yes, following the thread, though usually a few days behind. Please show me where I have ...
by pt1
Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

I think you disagree with other Sujin folk; the perspective here has been quite clearly spelled out, and it doesn't lie alongside the suttas to which it has been compared. Your disagreement with what you think of as a mischaracterization puts you in agreement with the suttas in this matter, it woul...
by pt1
Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

Sure, we could all do with some more patience, good will and willingness to take the other person's response on best merits. Either way, I don't think K.S. actually teaches that you have to be awakened to be awakened, and most of your conclusions / summaries of what K.S., D.F. and others were saying...
by pt1
Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1300
Views: 116902

Re: The causes for wisdom

While yoniso manasikara may be an attribute of an ariya, it is a something to cultivate in order to attain to that level, otherwise one is stuck in the problem that we see with the Sujin people in this thread, you have to be awakened to be awakened. That doesn't seem quite right since the usual mes...