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by binocular
Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:05 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right Speech: Getting Personal
Replies: 88
Views: 872

Re: Right Speech: Getting Personal

Who is the chastiser, and who has been chastised? There is no who that is the chastiser, there is no who that is being chastised. Without a who, there is nothing for "personal" comments to land on or cling to. That's pretty much how I feel. I find it bizarre that people are reading "outbursts" and ...
by binocular
Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:03 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right Speech: Getting Personal
Replies: 88
Views: 872

Re: Right Speech: Getting Personal

The point is as follows: (1) Different individuals might reasonably take comments personally in ways we can't always predict. (2) Such "personalized" comments are prone to misunderstanding. (3) When we have made a personalized comment (i.e., playing the person, not the ball), then we have created p...
by binocular
Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:54 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Want to improve sila
Replies: 5
Views: 30

Re: Want to improve sila

Digity wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:21 am
/.../ what would you personally pick for those three things?
On a general note: it should be activities where one can clearly measure whether one has done them or not.
For example, "be more generous" is hard to measure, but "give the cat fresh water every day" is measurable.
by binocular
Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:46 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Will certain Buddhists on DW please stop disparaging other faiths
Replies: 97
Views: 1241

Re: Will certain Buddhists on DW please stop disparaging other faiths

Personally, I'm not inclined to prohibit any subject of conversation, so long as behaviour of those involved in the conversation adheres to the parameters of the Terms of Service. But nonetheless, as this topic demonstrates, people complain when others dare to mention Islam in anything less than a ...
by binocular
Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:16 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Will certain Buddhists on DW please stop disparaging other faiths
Replies: 97
Views: 1241

Re: Will certain Buddhists on DW please stop disparaging other faiths

I really agree with this. I don't mind people discussing what they think are bad things about other religions but the tone of the discussion seem to me to be bashing and uncaring about the people who are muslims and who do not ascribe to those negative things which people see. The tone of the discu...
by binocular
Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:08 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Will certain Buddhists on DW please stop disparaging other faiths
Replies: 97
Views: 1241

Re: Will certain Buddhists on DW please stop disparaging other faiths

Or is it that Islam is such an emotive "hot button" topic for some people in the 21st century that no level of critique, no matter what the tone, can possibly be tolerated by them? Yes. And even intellectuals can be among such people. Some years back, I witnessed a discussion at a Buddhist forum wh...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Anger
Replies: 44
Views: 377

Re: Anger

Children need to see /.../ that their conduct might elicit anger in another. That would be teaching them that they are responsible for what other people think, feel, and do. Which then leads to, among other things, the considerable earnings of psychotherapists and self-help gurus. Most parents unde...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: Bodhisattva Path of Theravada
Replies: 15
Views: 257

Re: Bodhisattva Path of Theravada

perkele wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:10 pm
I think Ven. Dhammanando has mentioned it and enumerated the preconditions for taking on the bodhisatta path here quite recently somewhere.
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by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:26 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn
Replies: 59
Views: 679

Re: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn

I can't comment on your state of mind, but when I get into that kind of zone (assuming I'm understanding you) its generally a sign that something has gone wrong, e.g. aversion and dissociation. I don't want to overstate things, but with food, I seem to have defaultet to a sense of "This is what thi...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:18 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn
Replies: 59
Views: 679

Re: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn

I particularly like Ven. Punnaji's description of the purpose of 'mindfulness'. Loosely paraphrased it is to help abnormal people to normalize their life, and help normal people to the super-normal life. To me, this is an inclusive view that covers the whole of humanity and the stages of developmen...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:16 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn
Replies: 59
Views: 679

Re: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn

I don’t think that and I haven’t implied that. I don't think that you haven't implied it either. You did here: The quotes appear to be about cultivating awareness of the sensation of taste. What is the problem with it? That would depend on who the reader is. For a follower of Aristippus of Cyrene I...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:56 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right Speech: Getting Personal
Replies: 88
Views: 872

Re: Right Speech: Getting Personal

If we could get back on topic at some point, that would be great. The point being that (1) we all might make comments which could reasonably be taken personally by someone else , and (2) when we do so, Dhamma teaches that we should take personal responsibility for the words we have spoken/written. ...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:45 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right Speech: Getting Personal
Replies: 88
Views: 872

Re: Right Speech: Getting Personal

From my perspective, there always has been friendship and trust /.../ Of course we cannot mandate niceness. One would hope that all involved in a Buddhist discussion forum devoted to Dhamma would engage with one another in friendship and trust. I disagree. The teachings make very clear that one sho...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can one learn hiri and ottappa (as an adult)?
Replies: 20
Views: 205

Re: Can one learn hiri and ottappa (as an adult)?

Are some people here of the view that the only way to make progress on the path is through shame, fear, and dread? AN 10.76 , from the thread linked to in the OP, states: “Bhikkhus, one who has a sense of moral shame and moral dread is heedful. One who is heedful is capable of abandoning disrespect...
by binocular
Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:53 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right Speech: Getting Personal
Replies: 88
Views: 872

Re: Right Speech: Getting Personal

Reconciliation — patisaraniya-kamma — means a return to amicability, and that requires more than forgiveness. It requires the reestablishing of trust. If I deny responsibility for my actions, or maintain that I did no wrong, there's no way we can be reconciled . Similarly, if I insist that your fee...
by binocular
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Anger
Replies: 44
Views: 377

Re: Anger

It depends on the circumstances. See discussion re hiri and ottappa. Children need to see that anger is a part of our common human experience, and that their conduct might elicit anger in another. Children also need to see that anger can be managed in a responsible way. Children should not be shiel...
by binocular
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:49 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn
Replies: 59
Views: 679

Re: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn

aflatun wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:46 pm
Does this detachment bring you happiness or wisdom?
I feel miserable about it. I wish I could just be like others and that I could actually enjoy food.
by binocular
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can one learn hiri and ottappa (as an adult)?
Replies: 20
Views: 205

Re: Can one learn hiri and ottappa (as an adult)?

Sam Vara wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:23 pm
Sorry, I might be being presumptuous here, but if you can see the drawbacks and unsatisfactoriness of YOLO frameworks, then you have the potential to develop hiri-ottappa.
I'll have to think about this. It seems bold.
by binocular
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:41 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn
Replies: 59
Views: 679

Re: Master of mindfulness, Jon Kabat-Zinn

Even ignoring all of that, I think its far better for someone to say, cultivate a sense of joy, contentment and presence while eating a spoonful of food as opposed to mindlessly shoving platefuls down their throat while thinking about five other hedonic pursuits they would like to get into later, w...
by binocular
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:31 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Right Speech: Getting Personal
Replies: 88
Views: 872

Re: Right Speech: Getting Personal

You and others have so many excellent ideas to share, I hate to see you shoot yourself in the foot by using personalized comments which get in the way of the point you are trying to make. You do realize there is no judge here to whom we would all subject ourselves to and who would judge our posts, ...