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by Pulsar
Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

Existence, existence what does it even mean? Does the Higgs-boson exist? a perspective on
existence.
by Pulsar
Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 527
Views: 74823

Re: Jhana

Happiness that leads to happiness , Sona introduces Buddha, as self enlightened, arupas did not help him get enlightened, the memory of jhana experienced as a child came to his rescue on the night of enlightenment. Buddha had not met anyone enlightened before, how does he go there?  Around 3.16 in ...
by Pulsar
Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

in response to Chownah who wrote, So, notice that engaging with the kind of right view which deals with existence/non-existence (that would be right view with effluents) leads to acquisitions descibed as becoming (a DO link leading to rebirth) while engaging in the right view which does not deal wit...
by Pulsar
Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

Coëmgenu wrote  Many Madhyamakas here pass it off as Theravāda because they don't know any different. If Nagarjuna was informed by Kaccanagotta and if Theravada was informed by the Sutta pitaka originally, would they not have common ground? Both insist on the middle path, not getting hung up on "bei...
by Pulsar
Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:32 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 527
Views: 74823

Re: Jhana

Yet again from the sutta on the quail simile , Buddha selects this apt simile to show us the difference between persons with undeveloped faculties and developed faculties. The undeveloped person depicted by the quail, and the developed person being the royal elephant. Why is the quail such a ninny? ...
by Pulsar
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 527
Views: 74823

Re: Jhana

Confusedlayman wrote
In 4th jhana conciousness takes confidence in 4th jhana factor and rest there
What is the 4th jhana factor you are talking about, I am not familiar with 'it'.
I need to get back to the sutta I was discussing earlier i.e. MN 66.
Be well! :candle:
by Pulsar
Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

Dear Ceisiwr: This is from your comment. I know it is from something that BB has written, The Buddha also refers to Nibbana as an 'ayatana'. Can you pl. give me a sutta reference for this? since I cannot ask Ven. BB. Are you very sure all the things written in commentaries are supported by suttas? W...
by Pulsar
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

skandha wrote OK then I will be semi playful, can I use dependent-cessation then, since Nibbana is about "blowing out". We hear of asankhata being equated with Nibbana, unconditioned by the sankhatas, but is it skillful to negate conditions totally, as in apaccaya? Afterall, Ahetu-apaccaya-ditthi - ...
by Pulsar
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

chownah wrote I don't know off the top of my head what the kaccayanagotta sutta contains Entire doctrine is enclosed within this one short sutta. Even though you don't know it off the top of your mind, you seem to have a very good idea of what it contains. It is said "One who sees Dependent Originat...
by Pulsar
Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:07 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 527
Views: 74823

Re: Jhana

Dear Confusedlayman I thought you promised me not to intervene for another year. Pl do not break that promise. You will be blocked until then. Besides I thought you gained some insight during your sabbatical. Prove that by not interrupting this thread. I find it space consuming and distracting, when...
by Pulsar
Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 527
Views: 74823

Re: Jhana

Yet again from the sutta on the "Quail simile", this time stressing  the section on four buddhist jhanas, Buddha admonishes the monks with harsh words, 'the sensory cords, their filthy pleasure, you must not follow that'. Naturally monks have given up the family life for a greater good, neither does...
by Pulsar
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

skandha wrote, finally the voice of reason, thank you. Nibbana is not about being outside or inside of causality. Nibbana is simply the freedom of being able to see the insubstantial nature of things in terms of dependent arising and not cling and and be conditioned by them. I think we have to switc...
by Pulsar
Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

Coëmgenu wrote Would you care to define the sabhāva as something not ineffable, not inexpressible? Basically, I'm wondering what the supposed difference between sabhāva and emptiness is if sabhāva does not presume naïve realism -- i.e. nibbāna being as "real" as the supposedly real "water element." ...
by Pulsar
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

Coëmgenu the seeming Mahayanist scholar wrote It is interesting that the Theras do not apply the reasoning they applied to dismissing the existence of empty space/aether to dismissing the existence of one variety of cessation. but should you point a finger at the Theras for this difficulty? All side...
by Pulsar
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: On the Existence of Nibbana
Replies: 420
Views: 5994

Re: On the Existence of Nibbana

SteRo wrote chownah wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:30 pm The buddha taught that there are two extremes those being existence and non-existence and that the buddha takes the middle path which is dependent origination. chownah But there is another sutta in which he affirms existence. I do not see how the ...