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by Pulsar
Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Chownah wrote The eye of discernment "Friend, what can be known with the purified intellect-consciousness divorced from the five [sense] faculties?" "Friend, with the purified intellect-consciousness divorced from the five faculties the dimension of the infinitude of space can be known [as] 'infinit...
by Pulsar
Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Chownah wrote "There are also other meditations which can help in seeing the delusions we have of a self" This is very true. Sariputta engaged in meditation of the 7 enlightenment factors . Both methods involve mindfulness, Pasadhi, Equanimity and Dhamma vicaya . In several places in the canon inclu...
by Pulsar
Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Dear Chownah. I wanted to add this note, it may seem irrelevant in relation to the four rupa jhanas, but it is very much so, on further examination. There is seeming overlap in the Buddha's teaching and teachings of other sects, but the one place it differs radically is in the attitude to notion of ...
by Pulsar
Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 218
Views: 6058

Re: Jhana

In the questions of Udaya in the parayanavagga he asks Buddha 'How does the mindful wanderer bring his mind flow to an end? How does the consciousness cease for the thoughtful wanderer The question is about cessation, after many long nights and days, now I know the entire Parayanavagga, the oldest p...
by Pulsar
Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Dear MarioK: I am sorry it took this long, but I hope the above comment helps, with your meditaion. Pl. let me
know. :heart:
by Pulsar
Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

I like to get back to a small reintroduction on the 4 jhanas that lead to the awakening. We can revisit the subject of, how Buddha awoke later. At the beginning I had said that I will try to simplify, make it practical this form of buddhist meditation To begin, quieten the mind of things that force ...
by Pulsar
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Dear Chownah, the sequence of events in MN 36 reads like this, sometime after Gotama had left the two teachers But with this racking practice of austerities I haven't attained any superior human state, any distinction in knowledge or vision worthy of the noble ones. Could there be another path to Aw...
by Pulsar
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Chownah wrote I think this sutta does not say when the buddha first attained jhanas two through four but it certainly says that the buddha attained first jhana as a child.....well before he approached his teachers. Dear Chownah: The sutta refers to the four Rupa jhanas, and the events critical to hi...
by Pulsar
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 218
Views: 6058

Re: Jhana

Srilankaputra here is a description of jhanas, from Parayanavagga of sutta nipata, a conversation between Buddha and Udaya. These verses are reported to be the oldest parts of the canon. The Question of Udaya Udaya: To the meditator seated passionless, done his duty, without asavas, who has gone to ...
by Pulsar
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 218
Views: 6058

Re: Jhana

About the spokes that meet in the hub, Srilankaputra wrote
Stay at the centre
In order to eliminate the negative influences, simply ignore them
In meditation, go deep in the heart
Thank you for those non-buddhist words of wisdom. :candle:
by Pulsar
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Auto wrote
so is the "desire to be reborn" a vedic intrusion too in your opinion?
not at all, this would be purely due to Asava. However in concepts like cessation, Vedic intrusion is rampant :candle:
by Pulsar
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Chownah wrote Again, I'm quit willing to accept some of the thing you assert as for me it will not effect my practice one way or the other but I don't see that you have substantiated your asssertions In my comment I did refer to MN 36, which is available on the web. Do you want me to quote relevant ...
by Pulsar
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 218
Views: 6058

Re: Jhana

Auto wrote
why there is more than 1 jhana?
Are you referring to Rupa jhanas or Arupa jhanas? Your question is not clear. Are you familiar with the
Rupa jhanas, the thread is a discussion of Rupa jhanas. :candle:
by Pulsar
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4157

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Dear Chownah you wrote I was under the impression that the buddha learned all of the rupa and arupa jhanas from his previous teachers not at all, the arupas he learnt from the teachers, was no good in leading to terminating of DO. The Rupa jhanas are entirely his own. Gotama was frustrated with his ...