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by uojm
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:58 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Rebirth after Heaven/Hell
Replies: 12
Views: 312

Re: Rebirth after Heaven/Hell

The suttas appear to say animals can make kamma & realise the Noble Truths. SN 56.120 which includes the stock phrases ending SN 56.131 . If it was easy to travel up it would indicate that the results of ones actions would not be so heavy, easy to avoid, perhaps be random even. Then there might hav...
by uojm
Sat May 18, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How would you interpret this sutta? AN6.68
Replies: 17
Views: 424

Re: How would you interpret this sutta? AN6.68

SN47.8 Sūda - The Cook
by uojm
Wed May 15, 2019 6:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: If you do not believe birth (Jati) and Kamma means that you do not believe Nibbana as well?
Replies: 20
Views: 444

Re: If you do not believe birth (Jati) and Kamma means that you do not believe Nibbana as well?

We seek Nibbana because we need to end Samsara It is the stopping of suffering which is sought. Ending samsara could be seen as the byproduct. Even if you become an Arahant you still subject to sickness and suffering. That would be a misunderstanding. The khandhas are not picked up anymore; sufferi...
by uojm
Wed May 01, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

I think your interpretations are based on overlooking the context and the purpose of me introducing "the self is not real to begin with" which is neither denying nor asserting the self but making a distinction to show how heedfulness is heedlessness in disguise. Though your purpose was not about ta...
by uojm
Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

It might very well be that I have misunderstood you. Then I apologize for any inconvenience. Unfortunately my interpretation has not yet changed. Perhaps you are able to shine a light on a few parts. I said the self is not real to begin with , which is the main suppressant. Which I read as: "I said ...
by uojm
Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

My line of reasoning is based on the view that the main suppressant is not the impermanent nature of the self, but that the self is not real to begin with hence hatred, greed and delusion will always be its shadow. I don’t believe that you do believe your own view. Your claim: because this “the sel...
by uojm
Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:32 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

Would a shadow ever depart an image? It can be quite deceptive to think that i can overrun my shadow. The image of being heedful will always have heedlessness as its shadow, otherwise, it would not be known/recognized as such. Taking up this example, you then said that the (presence of shadow as a ...
by uojm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

Before going much further we should try to clear up some things, since some later formulations will keep us running in circles while step by step slightly changing the context. So, first this part. It is the presence of heedlessness as a possibility that makes heedfulness of the unenlightened questi...
by uojm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

I am not sure if introducing "understanding the drawbacks of heedlessness" as an intermediate link between heedlessness and heedfulness changes anything. Seeing your logical explanation below, it might be best to “establish” this “intermediate link”, as you seem to refer to this order to, first. So...
by uojm
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

I was merely exploring how being our of the possibility of being heedless is a main driver of being heedful. Heedless, normal mind-set so to speak, doesn’t need to reach a limit: If we have enough of distraction with seeing (different) things, we can simply resort to hearing, tasting, etc. There is...
by uojm
Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Heedlessness as a part of the practice
Replies: 67
Views: 915

Re: Heedlessness as a part of the practice

The benefits of heedfulness are obvious to the practitioner, that he/she feels in control and reflects before acting on his/her old habits. He/she acts while knowing what he/she is doing. One could argue that with proper heedfulness one starts to feel less and less in control (yes there is a choice...
by uojm
Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Back to self!
Replies: 84
Views: 2245

Re: Back to self!

Anything that arises is suffering including feeling. This too holds the view that the khandhas are suffering. Suppose this was true then as long as vedana is found, dukkha is found. And only when vedana ended dukkha ended. This would mean that Buddha could not have actually ended dukkha while being...
by uojm
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How to eliminate the conceit ?
Replies: 23
Views: 1461

Re: How to eliminate the conceit ?

My post was specifically about the body and mind, which there are countless suttas where the Buddha goes through the 5 aggregates and says they are not self. That is besides the point. You said “ We're not talking about self-view, but the self itself ". And whatever ‘ self itself ’ you view (body a...
by uojm
Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:07 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Question of cetana in kamma
Replies: 8
Views: 692

Re: Question of cetana in kamma

This question is about kamma-vipāka (the results of kamma) which is acinteyya (not to be speculated about). It will feed misunderstanding, so best not to go there.
by uojm
Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How to eliminate the conceit ?
Replies: 23
Views: 1461

Re: How to eliminate the conceit ?

You can't find what doesn't exist. It's a matter of process of elimination. Once the notion of no-self is understood experientially, the house of cards starts to crumble, but it's just the start. I think you're conflating different things here. Self-view and conceit clearly do exist. We're not talk...