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by Dinsdale
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Losing friendships
Replies: 13
Views: 196

Re: Losing friendships

Hello, My friends like to go partying, drinking, going to festivals, chasing their dreams of succes, enjoying a whole lot of entertainment. And I'm totally opposite of what they're doing. I spend most of my hours in meditation, read meditation manuals, go to dhamma groups and to retreats. I think m...
by Dinsdale
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

In these discussions that Lord budda used a logic ( sequence as well as circular logic) to explain the process of samsara in sensual spheres should not be forgotten. If we try to break down this form of logic , then the meaning will not surface. Could you elaborate on what you mean by "circular log...
by Dinsdale
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"
Replies: 24
Views: 465

Re: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"

Thanks, an interesting discussion, though somewhat inconclusive. It occurred to me In the suttas consciousness arises in dependence upon sense-base and sense-object, eg eye and visible form - does this mean that vinnana depends upon a duality? "The Blessed One said: "And what is the origination of ...
by Dinsdale
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

In these discussions that Lord budda used a logic ( sequence as well as circular logic) to explain the process of samsara in sensual spheres should not be forgotten. If we try to break down this form of logic , then the meaning will not surface. Could you elaborate on what you mean by "circular log...
by Dinsdale
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:24 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"
Replies: 24
Views: 465

Re: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"

Am I right in thinking that the "vi" of "vinnana" means "two", and denotes a duality? I think it does have a dual association to it, subject object dichotomy. The end of consciousness would also be the end of vinnana. This is big departure from Advaita and the Hindu model. They don't acknowledge th...
by Dinsdale
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:18 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"
Replies: 24
Views: 465

Re: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"

Am I right in thinking that the "vi" of "vinnana" means "two", and denotes a duality? Here's an earlier thread which goes into that: https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?t=12543 Thanks, an interesting discussion, though somewhat inconclusive. It occurred to me In the suttas consciousness arises in...
by Dinsdale
Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:29 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

OK, here's your example: https://suttacentral.net/sn12.61/en/sujato#5.2--5.3 ‘When this exists, that is; due to the arising of this, that arises. ‘iti imasmiṃ sati idaṃ hoti, imassuppādā idaṃ uppajjati; When this doesn’t exist, that is not; due to the cessation of this, that ceases. That is: imasmi...
by Dinsdale
Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"
Replies: 24
Views: 465

Re: The original meaning of "viññāṇa"

Am I right in thinking that the "vi" of "vinnana" means "two", and denotes a duality?
by Dinsdale
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

I continue to struggle to comprehend why folks view the descriptions of birth, aging and death in DO as "physical". Simply because they are described in physical terms in the suttas, specifically in SN12.2 and MN9. Perhaps you don't want to accept this because it undermines your personal interpreta...
by Dinsdale
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

There are various ways of understanding the conditionality involved in DO, but I think the two most important ones are those described in the suttas, ie snychronous ( "While this nidana is present, then that nidana is present..." ) and sequential ( "When this nidana arises, then that nidana arises....
by Dinsdale
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

There are, obviously, different interpretations of dependent origination, but this diagram perhaps suggests that we should not think of it a step-by-step process. There are various ways of understanding the conditionality involved in DO, but I think the two most important ones are those described i...
by Dinsdale
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bundles of reeds simile.
Replies: 114
Views: 1240

Re: Bundles of reeds simile.

Retro is, of course presenting his interpretation, which is influenced by Vens Nanananda and Nanavira. But do note that in the sutta you quoted one of the perversions is: 'Self' with regard to not-self is a perversion of perception, a perversion of mind, a perversion of view. So, if we accept the i...
by Dinsdale
Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bundles of reeds simile.
Replies: 114
Views: 1240

Re: Bundles of reeds simile.

Thus, all the five aggregates are actually sankharas, whether they are assigned to the sankhara aggregate or one of the other four. I think you are muddying the water by conflating these two quite distinct uses of "sankhara". Again it's a case of square pegs and round holes, trying to force one mea...
by Dinsdale
Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

SarathW wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:39 am
All limbs on DO not separable from each other. They all one just like we are now.
They are all part of a process or state, in the same way that the aggregates are all part of a process or state. However we can look at them as individual aspects of the whole.
by Dinsdale
Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?
Replies: 22
Views: 340

Re: Is Dependent Origination about Nama,Rupa or Nama-Rupa?

One can't talk about namarupa in dependent origination until you are able to define correctly what it means . Here is the nidana "definition" of nama-rupa from SN12.2: "And what is name-&-form? Feeling, perception, intention, contact, & attention: This is called name. The four great elements, and t...