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by Dinsdale
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

Nibbana is also a label used to describe a state where there is: - No rebirth - No feelings/sensation - No forms - No perception - No fabrications - No consciousness To me, those things sound a lot like "existence", since if you cannot sense anything, you cannot perceive anything, you cannot cogniz...
by Dinsdale
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

Why couldn't something be there all the time, but perpetually changing? Like the weather, for example. This is called forms, and forms aren't "real". If you slap a label on something it doesn't make it real. For example, a chair is just a bunch of wood, plastic, or metal, organized in a certain way...
by Dinsdale
Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 453

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

DooDoot wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:54 am
I would like to thank everyone for the contributions but it appears to become unsubstantiated sectarianism.
So if people don't agree with your personal interpretation, it is "unsubstantiated sectarianism"? :shrug:
by Dinsdale
Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 453

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

I sense Bhikkhu Sujato's translation is the most realistic; where as the translations of Bhikkhu Bodhi and Thanissaro sound vague or obtuse to me. For example, Bhikkhu Bodhi's translations appears to infer the feeling is terminating rather than the body is terminating. Actually Ven. Bodhi and Thani...
by Dinsdale
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

If it comes to an end it is not permanent. Sure. If there is movement then it must come to an end. Why couldn't something be there all the time, but perpetually changing? Like the weather, for example - the rain stops, but the weather continues. If it comes into existence, it must go out of existen...
by Dinsdale
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:19 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

What i am trying to say is that a "changing self" is an oxymoron and it is where deception seem to happen even if we experience the world in that way. I think we are muddling up two rather different things here. One is belief/disbelief in Atman, the other is "psychological" self view, the sense of ...
by Dinsdale
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

Label it whatever you want, at the end of the day you cannot have sensuality (6 senses) and permanence at the same time. I don't see why not, if the permanent essence is hidden "beneath" the senses, which I think is what Hinduism teaches. You could say that the goal of Hindu practice is to discover...
by Dinsdale
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

If you can't see how "my" or "self" implies unchanging, then could you explain the difference between Anatta and Atman? I think in Hinduism there is the assumption of a transcendent reality "beneath" mundane experience, ie Atman/Brahman. You could say that practice is aimed at "seeing through" the ...
by Dinsdale
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why are you in this forum?
Replies: 53
Views: 1906

Re: Why are you in this forum?

Sam Vara wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:59 pm
The "sutta-expert" who gets into protracted or rancorous arguments with others is, I think, worth watching, but not following.
Good point. ;)

https://xkcd.com/386/
by Dinsdale
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

I think too many people fall into the trap of looking at the finger (Anicca, Dukkha, Anatta) rather than to what the finger is pointing at (Nibbana). Good point. Anicca, Dukkha, Anatta are safeguards you use to measure experience. They are a form of quality assurance to test your experience to see ...
by Dinsdale
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

Notice that you highlighted the word "sense" which is shifting, and the word "my" is often taken for granted and goes unnoticed. Sure, the "my" assumes there is an "I", a self having experiences - rather than just the experiences themselves, the sights, sounds, etc. ( see the Bahiya Sutta passage )...
by Dinsdale
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: “Enters & Remains”
Replies: 27
Views: 3770

Re: “Enters & Remains”

Pondera wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:15 am
The jhana may be a mind state. For me it may be more complicated. The jhana may be a sphere of perception - like the earth or the water kasina.
Good point. I think there is the same ambiguity around Nibbana.
by Dinsdale
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why are you in this forum?
Replies: 53
Views: 1906

Re: Why are you in this forum?

rightviewftw wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:23 am
to periodically refute foolish people with the Dhamma
There seems to be a lot of that going on here. :jumping:
by Dinsdale
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

The perception of a changing phenomena gives rise to the perception of unchanging self, and the perception of unchanging self gives rise to the perception of changing phenomena. And yet we practice sati, which involves a quality of consistent awareness - "one who knows" as Ajahn Chah put it. Why do...
by Dinsdale
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?
Replies: 49
Views: 578

Re: What is Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta are the five clinging-aggregate?

The perception of a changing phenomena gives rise to the perception of unchanging self, and the perception of unchanging self gives rise to the perception of changing phenomena. And yet we practice sati, which involves a quality of consistent awareness - "one who knows" as Ajahn Chah put it. Why do...