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by Spiny Norman
Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

My personal view is each nidana is a nidana polluted by ignorance, such as when SN 22.81 uses the word compound: " Ignorant-contact ". Therefore, when ignorance ends, each ignorant nidana ends, which is every nidana. What remains is five undefiled or pure aggregates; which include purified consciou...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 4
Views: 40

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

After all, what is it internal to, if not to that which is falsely deemed to be mine, me, or my self? If you wish, do explain to us a demarcation point between internal and external whose nexus does not resort to that which is falsely deemed to be mine, me, or my self. I would suggest it is the dis...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:52 am
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: How to stop associating yourself with your thoughts?
Replies: 12
Views: 128

Re: How to stop associating yourself with your thoughts?

I don't know how to go about rooting out the idea that it is 'me' in control and also, where I go from my current level of realisation? Constantly see inconstancy. That is what works best for me, noticing perpetual change, noticing how thoughts come and go, noticing them passing by, like birds in t...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

Ajahn Buddhadasa had some interesting words on phassa: Another method: For the average person, it is extremely difficult to prevent phassa from developing into vedana. As soon as there is sense-contact, the feelings of satisfaction or dissatisfaction always follow immediately. It doesn't stop at ph...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 4
Views: 40

Internal / External - significance and meaning

Greetings Spiny, Curious then that a sutta describing a contemplation on the four elements includes the distinction between internal and external. "And what is the earth property? The earth property can be either internal or external....Now both the internal earth property & the external earth prop...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:26 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.
Replies: 11
Views: 257

Re: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.

Would someone that has experienced the delight (pīti) of I/O breath, be still attached to the external āyatanāni? Would that be "temporary"? Can vulgar sensual pleasures override pīti? - Or does pīti overrides earthy sensual pleasures? Would experiencing a faithful and persistent contentment, be te...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:20 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: three marks of conditioned dhammas: origination, presence, cessation
Replies: 8
Views: 91

Re: three marks of conditioned dhammas: origination, presence, cessation

JohnK wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:59 pm
So these characteristics seem to be a fine-tuning of or aid to seeing the anicca characteristic.
Yes. It's about noticing change, transience, arising, ceasing, passing.
by Spiny Norman
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:55 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.
Replies: 11
Views: 257

Re: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.

ToVincent wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:25 pm
And seclusion is about entrenching oneself in the internal only. The body, the breath, etc.
Sure, but it is a temporary seclusion, and that is the case for all sitting meditation. In any case, the culmination of the practice is insight in the fourth tetrad.
by Spiny Norman
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

"ignorant phassa" Ignorant passa seem to be mentioned in SN 22.81, MN 38 & MN 148. ...assumes... to be self. That assumption is a fabrication. Now what is the cause, what is the origination, what is the birth, what is the coming-into-existence of that fabrication? To an uninstructed, run-of-the-mil...
by Spiny Norman
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

What is meant by "resistance-obsession" in this passage from the Arrow Sutta? Is it referring to aversion? That might help you get the real definition of these words (see the text in blue and the lexicographical references for paṭigha in #2. https://justpaste.it/19eb6 This looks like a description ...
by Spiny Norman
Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:17 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.
Replies: 11
Views: 257

Re: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.

I've studied a number of commentaries on the four tetrads of Anapanasati, the best one IMO is "Mindfulness with breathing" by Bhikkhu Buddhadasa.

https://www.dhammatalks.net/Books3/Bhik ... athing.htm
by Spiny Norman
Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

I was looking again at "Mindfulness with breathing" by Bhikkhu Buddhadasa, and came across this discussion of phassa - I'm not sure though what he means here by "ignorant phassa": "But once we come to its practical application, dependent origination is exquisitely simple. In practice, it all boils d...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

See here for example in SN35.93: “Contacted, bhikkhus, one feels, contacted one intends, contacted one perceives." https://suttacentral.net/en/sn35.93 I was reading Bhikkhu Bodhi's notes to this sutta, and he comments that feeling, volition and perception arise in dependence on contact. So presumab...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:48 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.
Replies: 11
Views: 257

Re: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.

I disagree with the goal of "towards the internal"... here's a couple of extracts from Nanananda's Nibbana Sermons that explain why. Since cravings, conceits and views thus reinforce the dichotomy between an internal and an external, the Buddha has upheld this principle underlying the meditation on...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

What is meant by "resistance-obsession" in this passage from the Arrow Sutta? Is it referring to aversion? "As he is touched by that painful feeling, he is not resistant. No resistance-obsession with regard to that painful feeling obsesses him. Touched by that painful feeling, he does not delight in...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 491

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

....it may be that the object itself remains inherently desirable or undesirable independently of the perceiver's personal preferences. I'm not sure that an object can remain independently desirable or undesirable. For an object to be desirable for example, it needs to be perceived as desirable. Th...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:14 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Pleasant and Unpleasant
Replies: 43
Views: 491

Re: Pleasant and Unpleasant

Goofaholix wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:39 pm
Sanna is more a non verbal recognition.
Yes, and I would say it also usually an unconscious recognition.
by Spiny Norman
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

And also, one of my favorite passages from the Sutta Nipata: "Where is the cause of appealing & un-? When what isn't do they not exist? And whatever is meant by becoming & not- : tell me, Where is its cause?" "Contact is the cause of appealing & un-. When contact isn't they do not exist. And whatev...
by Spiny Norman
Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 137
Views: 2107

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

First, it would be good if you could reference suttas with parallels. SN 12.44 does not have any. SN 35.93 would have been more proper. ?? I quoted SN35.93 in my last reply to you, to show that sanna ( recognition of the objects properties ) arises in dependence on phassa, confirming that phassa is...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:07 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Uncovered Misery
Replies: 10
Views: 246

Re: Uncovered Misery

I am familiar with the idea that meditation can bring up things in our consciousness that we were unaware of. I recently meditated 30 min metta and 30 minutes Mahasi vipassana for about a week. A lot of stuff came up. Grief, rage, sadness, loneliness, hatred, anger, now that I've opened Pandora's b...