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by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

cappuccino wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:35 pm
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Matthew 7:1-3
Just following instructions friend.
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

"Don't say that, friend Yamaka. Don't misrepresent the Blessed One. It's not good to misrepresent the Blessed One, for the Blessed One would not say, 'A monk with no more effluents, on the break-up of the body, is annihilated, perishes, & does not exist after death.'" Yamaka Sutta ye but i never sa...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

the Other Shore :shrug: the Island, the Refuge, the Beyond. ~ S 43.1-44 Are you going to resort to evasive statements and to endless equivocation ala: '...But I do not take it thus, nor do I take it in that way, nor do I take it in some other way. I do not say that it is not, nor do I say that is n...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What experiences happiness in Nibbana?
Replies: 53
Views: 559

Re: What experiences happiness in Nibbana?

no,no, no, not only the Buddha, all the teaching Buddhas :)
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

you're asking if I think consciousness is self & you're asking if I think Nirvana has consciousness these are different questions you should separate these issues Are you then declaring your view thus: 'That which is called "the eye," "the ear," "the nose," "the tongue," and "the body" — that self ...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

I don't think anything changes, I think existence continues as always I think this because Nirvana isn't a change, otherwise it would be conditioned of course subjectively, Nirvana is different Are you then declaring your view thus: 'That which is called "the eye," "the ear," "the nose," "the tongu...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

just explain to me or yourself how you come up with the idea of annihilation there is nothing for me to explain, the status quo is set in stone I've tried explaining to you but you don't get it because you seem to adhere to this doctrine; "Herein, bhikkhus, recluse or a certain brahmin is a rationa...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

cappuccino wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:21 pm
rightviewftw wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:18 pm
Explain how something that is not made fascilitates eternal existence?
existence is the status quo, you for some reason think it can be otherwise

even though Deathless implies existence
that is not a very good explaination. If a man does not build himself a house he can live in it forever?
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

cappuccino wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:02 pm
the island … the shelter … the asylum … the refuge
the Everlasting
the unailing state … Nibbāna
as i said, relying on mistranslations and imagination. Explain how something that is not made fascilitates eternal existence?
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

soul remaining forever young in your eternal paradise? Bodhi: “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the taintless and the path leading to the taintless. Listen to that…. “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the truth and the path leading to the truth…. I will teach you the far shore … the subtle … the very difficult t...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

eternal ism is the view of same identity eternity is another matter (Nirvana is everlasting) here we go again... appavatta - non-persisting akālika - timeless or not-time asamuppannaṃ - beyond time not everlasting dhuva - sure, stable, constant not everlasting relying on disputed mistranslations to...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Off-topic posts from: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 34
Views: 396

Re: enlightenment in theravada

Wouldn't that just mean the cessation of experience? yes basically. basically that is annihilation ism no you are taking things out of context and it is actually rather annoying at this point. It is obvious that i explained cessation of experience as the cessation of Khandas and Nama&Rupa in this c...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 9
Views: 178

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

I can't comment on the pali, i've no idea. If you do please tell. Sorry, I should have included 'deathless'. I was interested in your understanding of this, vis-a-vis your interest in this sutta. How i undestand the meaning of Deathless? I understand the term to essentially have the Non-made as it'...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 9
Views: 178

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

Thanissaro an10.58: "'All phenomena gain their footing in the deathless. https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an10/an10.058.than.html To me, this is an incorrect translation. Amatogadhā is usually 'immersing, diving, plunging, merging in the deathless'. Regarding the importance you place on ...
by rightviewftw
Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 9
Views: 178

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9 aka The Dhamma Conspiracy

Bhikkhu Bodhi's notes for AN 10.58: A Chinese parallel, MĀ 113 (at T I 602c 1–16 ), makes the following assertions: “All things are rooted in desire; all come together in contact; all converge on feeling; all originate from attention; all are stopped by mindful- ness (see Sn 1035); all are headed b...