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by auto
Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Re: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta Could you please kindly put forward your personal take on a stream-enterer [the one at first stage of enlightenment], if there is any? SE by indulging in sensual pleasures is how the consciousness re-enters the womb for further development. Alighting or t...
by auto
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Re: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

When the sutta mentions people going along with the stream, it is referring to people who don’t practice, not to a sotapanna. the Sutta you quoted is also describing stream-entrant like a zoopark animal, describing its factors, that person associates with good people etc. I think it is describing t...
by auto
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Re: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

sotāpanna partakes in sensual pleasures hence SE enters the stream, like you say flow of the world. If he wouldn't partake in sensual pleasures then he would not be a streamenterer he would be 2nd person. I repeat, "stream" in "stream-enterer" doesn't refer to sensual pleasures and the flow of the ...
by auto
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Re: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

This sutta isn't about stream-enterers. what you mean by that? What I mean by that is that the sutta you quoted is in no way "not so good take on a stream-enterer". The "stream" referenced in the sutta is not the stream of the path. The word "stream" can be used in different contexts and different ...
by auto
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4156

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

his ascetic practice, long after he had left the teachers. When he recalled it, he realized that he could not pursue it unless he gave up ascetic practices. At this point it enabled him turn his memory into a new experience, to intensify and transform it, and work through Rupa jhanas 2-4 as reporte...
by auto
Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Re: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

Nicolas wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:31 pm
This sutta isn't about stream-enterers.
what you mean by that?

The excerpts speaks about person who goes with the stream. You can think of it it is a person who yet isn't able to go against the "its tradition that people go do jobs buy houses, marry and make children" stream.
by auto
Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Re: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

Hi Auto! As far as I know, the metaphor of the river and the stream has a lot of uses and interpretations in the suttas. If we follow your first example without any concern for its context, everyone would be stream-enterers. Kind regards! If you follow without any concern for its context then why y...
by auto
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Re: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

https://suttacentral.net/dhp334-359/en/anandajoti He in whom the thirty-six streams flow pleasantly and strong, the one with wrong view, is carried away by his passionate intentions. Yassa chattiṃsati sotā, manāpasavanā bhusā; Mahāvahanti duddiṭṭhiṃ, saṅkappā rāganissitā. .. That one who is overcome...
by auto
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta
Replies: 14
Views: 351

Not so good take on a stream-enterer, Sutta

https://suttacentral.net/an4.5/en/sujato excerpts “These four people are found in the world. “Cattārome, bhikkhave, puggalā santo saṃvijjamānā lokasmiṃ. What four? Katame cattāro? A person who goes with the stream; a person who goes against the stream; a steadfast person; and a brahmin who has cross...
by auto
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 177
Views: 4156

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

Pulsar wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:20 pm
A lot of the misconception is due to Vedic stuff tucked into the Pali canon
so is the "desire to be reborn" a vedic intrusion too in your opinion?
by auto
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 218
Views: 6058

Re: Jhana

Pulsar wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:25 pm
Auto wrote
why there is more than 1 jhana?
Are you referring to Rupa jhanas or Arupa jhanas? Your question is not clear. Are you familiar with the
Rupa jhanas, the thread is a discussion of Rupa jhanas. :candle:
why isn't there only 1 jhana?
by auto
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: anamatagga
Replies: 4
Views: 139

Re: anamatagga

https://suttacentral.net/mn116/en/sujato These and other mighty ones awakened for themselves, Ete ca aññe ca mahānubhāvā, enders of the attachment to rebirth—Paccekabuddhā bhavanettikhīṇā; honor these great hermits who are fully extinguished, Te sabbasaṅgātigate mahesī, having got past all ties, lim...
by auto
Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:56 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana
Replies: 218
Views: 6058

Re: Jhana

why there is more than 1 jhana?
by auto
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Householder is
Replies: 0
Views: 74

Householder is

Householder is who has become into age where sexuality activates. wanderer is reference to the path what goes through these parts what got activated, going round and round. Household robe is reference to the period where a nun is menstruating, so it could mean time where making offspring is allowed....
by auto
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: anamatagga
Replies: 4
Views: 139

Re: anamatagga

https://suttacentral.net/sn1.11/en/sujato All conditions are impermanent, Aniccā sabbasaṅkhārā, their nature is to rise and fall; uppādavayadhammino; having arisen, they cease; Uppajjitvā nirujjhanti, their stilling is true bliss.’” tesaṃ vūpasamo sukho’”ti. https://suttacentral.net/an10.58/en/sujat...