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by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 46
Views: 577

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

... there is no conditions in Sottapana mind to suicide... In the suttas, many monks ended life because they saw life as worthless or without substance; such as monks who practised contemplation of foulness of the body. because he knows suffering as it is, he dont see it as : "i am suffer", but "th...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

....I think it is clear from an11.10 that this is kind of perception is not the kind of perception used for achieving direct knowledge. As posted, in my view, perception is not used generically or ordinarily in AN 11.10. As I posted, it appears "sanna" is used within the names of different types of...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:20 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: About paññatti 'concept'
Replies: 18
Views: 573

Re: About paññatti 'concept'

The terms, rittaka and sunnata, are an adjective, indicated in SN 22.95, and SN 35.197. That simply means 'empty'. So, it is empty (void) of both, existence and non-existence, which are based on self-attachment, following the middle way teachings indicated in SN 12.15. "Sunnata" appears used in a s...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

according to you anybody who stops smoking is enlightened, bye. This above seems to say the only type of "craving" is for cigarettes... :roll: There is a difference between completely uprooting the higher fetters and stopping smoking lol. No. The higher fetters include craving. Lust for form jhana;...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

Your puthujhanna understanding of destruction of craving does not lead to destruction of Asava. The discussion with my good self is over. The Buddha described Nibbana as the destruction of craving. To disagree with this falls outside of Buddhism. :alien: if you believe in karma you should be carefu...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

rightviewftw wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:54 am
Even puthujhana attain such cessation of craving of which you speak, there is nothing special in such puthujhana attainment of cessation of craving.
:jawdrop: The impression is the above affirms how substantial the wrong view is.
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

you have no idea of what you are talking about. You think that nibbana is cessation of craving... Sure, I have no idea.... :roll: :pig: :strawman: 154. O house-builder, you are seen! You will not build this house again. For your rafters are broken and your ridgepole shattered. My mind has reached t...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

Parinibbana. The Buddha's Parinibbana occurred when he was 80 years old. But for the previous 45 years, the Buddha lived with Nibbana. More importantly, if the here-&-now Nibbana is not attained, Parinibbana cannot be attained. The goal of the path is not Parinibbana. It is Nibbana. Emphasis on Par...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:56 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

If I remember correctly, in neither of the suttas is sanna/sanjanati (perception/perceive) ascribed to accomplished people and it is used in both for unskilled people. I already offered my opinion with reference to MN 43, where wisdom is cojoined with consciousness & perception. There are many sutt...
by DooDoot
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:31 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: About paññatti 'concept'
Replies: 18
Views: 573

Re: About paññatti 'concept'

Seeing and knowing 'anicca, dukkha, anatta' in the SN suttas, for e.g., is indicated as yathaabhuuta.m 'things as they really are' (dhammas), not as paramattha 'ultimate reality' (dhammas). When the Anapanasati Sutta refers to seeing Dhamma (steps 13 to 16), it refers to: 13. Impermanence (unsatisf...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Sila samadhi Panna
Replies: 7
Views: 366

Re: Sila samadhi Panna

If one has good sila mentally verbally and physically will this lead to samadhi and then turn into vipassana? No. Samadhi cannot be developed without good sila however good sila does not guarantee samadhi. The development of samadhi requires the overcoming of the five hindrances, particularly the h...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

Another sutta supporting my interpretation is MN 121, where the "perception of earth" is a formal meditation object (and uses the same terminology as AN 11.10). Thus, it appears AN 11.10 might not be referring to the everyday perception of earth, such as when the Buddha is walking in the forest and...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

Those who have realized the cessation of perception have not only practiced but have actually realized the Noble Eightfold Path and are way beyond mere "starting to practise the path". Sorry but no one has done the above; from the start. The above is non-sequitur. The argument made up above is alie...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana
Replies: 45
Views: 498

Re: Supramundane Jhanas AS Nibbana

Can you tell me what pali word is used which is translated to " perception " in the two instances from an11.010 https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an11/an11.010.than.html#fnt-1 shown here?: Saññā. Saññā (in AN 11.10 ) is a noun. Sañjānāti in MN 1 is a verb. The meaning of both words appear...
by DooDoot
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:09 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: About paññatti 'concept'
Replies: 18
Views: 573

Re: About paññatti 'concept'

The meaning of "dhamma" used in the Abhidhamma book is the so-called paramattha "ultimate reality". It seems not found in the suttas. I think the above meaning can be derived from the suttas, such as in AN 3.136 (quoted below) and even in the Anapanasati Sutta, where the final tetrad (contemplation...