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by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Abhidhamma teachings in the Suttas
Replies: 9
Views: 1243

Re: Abhidhamma teachings in the Suttas

A slightly tangential detail -- surprised to find, in a recent Pali class nearby, taught by a Burmese translator, with students from vaious SE-Asian countries, that they pronounce "abhidhamma" as "aBHIdhamma" (accent on 2nd syllable), rather than "ABhidhamma" as most Americans say it. Also, they sa...
by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment
Replies: 28
Views: 358

Re: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment

Show me a sutta where cessation of feeling and perception is a conditioned state. Conditioned by what exactly? You won’t be able to and you won’t be able to answer either. Are you using this passage to equate that attainment with nibbana? Furthermore, going totally beyond the dimension of neither p...
by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment
Replies: 28
Views: 358

Re: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment

Pondera wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:47 am
Yes. Mike - you appear to be the exception here. Be prepared to defend your view until death :rolleye:
I don't think I am an exception. At least Robert and Ven Nanananda agree with me... :tongue:

Mike
by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment
Replies: 28
Views: 358

Re: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment

I can see that everyone here is in agreement that the Buddha is always in Nibbana,.. I think that's an oversimplification. In most interpretations that I am familiar with, including the ancient commentaries, and various modern interpretations, there is a nibbana "awakening experience" that involves...
by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:07 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Abhidhamma teachings in the Suttas
Replies: 9
Views: 1243

Re: Abhidhamma teachings in the Suttas

It's probably worth noting that the term "abhidhamma" appears in the suttas, but in that context it simply refers to the Buddha's teaching which do not infer a conventional person... thus, that which addresses elements, sense-bases, mindstates etc. Then there is "Abhidhamma", not referred to in the...
by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment
Replies: 28
Views: 358

Re: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment

So, it seems that the question: "Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment?" should be rejected, along with the question of whether he exists after death. [Any of the aggregates] by which a Realized One might be described has been cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, exterminated, and unable ...
by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment
Replies: 28
Views: 358

Re: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment

This is also relevant. The Buddha describing an arahant: They neither make a choice nor form an intention to continue existence or to exterminate existence. Because of this, they don’t grasp at anything in the world. Not grasping, they’re not anxious. Not being anxious, they personally become exting...
by mikenz66
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment
Replies: 28
Views: 358

Re: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment

Even now there is no James or Robert in the deepest sense. And also there was no Buddha as some sort of existant being. There are, and were, however, the five khandhas, namarupa, arising and passing away. This is basic Dhamma, but get it right and other aspects will be clear. Thanks Robert. There a...
by mikenz66
Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment
Replies: 28
Views: 358

Re: Does a Buddha Suffer after Enlightenment

Revisit the first noble truth. You will find that, by definition, pain is suffering. Revisit the first noble truth. OK! Now this is the noble truth of suffering. Rebirth is suffering; old age is suffering; illness is suffering; death is suffering; sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress ar...
by mikenz66
Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Cautious about practicing consistent vipassana with mental health issues?
Replies: 18
Views: 326

Re: Cautious about practicing consistent vipassana with mental health?

I live just outside the New York City city limits and so there is a Theravada Vihara even within more or less walking distance. I have been to it in the past often but I think for most of the laypeople it's just a token observance. I wouldn't be too quick to judge. Some of the lay people at my loca...
by mikenz66
Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:25 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Cautious about practicing consistent vipassana with mental health issues?
Replies: 18
Views: 326

Re: Cautious about practicing consistent vipassana with mental health?

Mahasi has a lot of brilliant detail in his book but no warnings. So I want to be on solid ground when looking to start this. ... I think he's assuming that practitioners would have some access to a teacher to report progress and problems. You might enjoy this interview with Steve Armstrong: https:...
by mikenz66
Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 20.1 Kūṭa Sutta. A Roof Peak.
Replies: 3
Views: 51

Re: SN 20.1 Kūṭa Sutta. A Roof Peak.

The Kūṭa Sutta seems connected to these Dhammapada verses: Through many a birth in samsara have I wandered in vain, seeking the builder of this house (of life). Repeated birth is indeed suffering! O house-builder, you are seen! You will not build this house again. For your rafters are broken and you...
by mikenz66
Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:57 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 20.1 Kūṭa Sutta. A Roof Peak.
Replies: 3
Views: 51

Re: SN 20.1 Kūṭa Sutta. A Roof Peak.

The Opamma Saṃyutta contains a series of short suttas linked by them all containing pithy similes. The next Sutta: A Fingernail, Nakhasikha Sutta SN 20.2, https://suttacentral.net/sn20.2 also speaks of diligence: At Sāvatthī. Then the Buddha, picking up a little bit of dirt under his fingernail, add...
by mikenz66
Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:52 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 20.1 Kūṭa Sutta. A Roof Peak.
Replies: 3
Views: 51

SN 20.1 Kūṭa Sutta. A Roof Peak.

SN 20.1 Kūṭa Sutta. A Roof Peak. Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato As rafters depend on the roof-peak, unwholesome qualities depend on ignorance. https://suttacentral.net/sn20.1 So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. There the Buddha...
by mikenz66
Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Slandering buddha
Replies: 169
Views: 1725

Re: Slandering buddha

There's the Kesi Sutta approach, too. I think a combination of the Canki Sutta (Safeguarding the truth) and the Kesi Sutta (on how to train) will help you overcome this false dilemma. You can leave at your leisure, but I think you don't have to hold so fiercely to the idea that others must be banis...