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by mikenz66
Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does the consciousness experience nibbana ?
Replies: 56
Views: 683

Re: Does the consciousness experience nibbana ?

~ SN 1086-7 I do not understand what this sutta number is. Write a standard sutta number so that I can see the Pali original. Sometimes the phrase amata-dhatu is translated in this way. Sometimes in poetic stanzas, amatam padam is written for rhythm. Perhaps here: https://suttacentral.net/snp5.9/en...
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: What does pari-mukha mean in 16 APS anapana sati?
Replies: 16
Views: 163

Re: What does pari-mukha mean in 16 APS anapana sati?

frank k wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:49 am
2) figurative only, not a literal interpretation of spatial coordinates, like "focusing on task at hand"
Or, as Patrick Kearney sometimes says, a similar Australian idiom would be "In ya face"... :tongue:

Mike
by mikenz66
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does the consciousness experience nibbana ?
Replies: 56
Views: 683

Re: Does the consciousness experience nibbana ?

Consciousness without feature, without end, luminous all around https://sujato.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/vinnaṇa-is-not-nibbana-really-it-just-isn’t/ See also the discussion of the passage at the start of Ven Analayo's lecture on Ven Nanananda's Nibbana Sermon 6. https://www.buddhistinquiry.org/reso...
by mikenz66
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did the Buddha teach anything other than four noble truths?
Replies: 38
Views: 418

Re: Did the Buddha teach anything other than four noble truths?

I was simply quoting the sutta My impression is you were imputing your personal interpretation upon a translation rather than quoting a sutta. I hardly see how quoting a sutta can be taken as an interpretation. Perhaps you are overinterpreting your psychic powers. In any case much conditionality is...
by mikenz66
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did the Buddha teach anything other than four noble truths?
Replies: 38
Views: 418

Re: Did the Buddha teach anything other than four noble truths?

I think that his point was that the Path itself is conditioned... https://suttacentral.net/mn44/en/sujato#10.2 My impression above is you are misconstruing the term "conditioned" to mean "thought-constructed" (rather than "causal"). :smile: I was simply quoting the sutta, so I can't see how I could...
by mikenz66
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did the Buddha teach anything other than four noble truths?
Replies: 38
Views: 418

Re: Did the Buddha teach anything other than four noble truths?

:bow: The Buddha taught the Four Noble Truths exist, whether or not they are discovered by a Buddha. SarathW seems to be posting Mahayana & Christian ideas, including... I think that his point was that the Path itself is conditioned... https://suttacentral.net/mn44/en/sujato#10.2 :heart: Mike
by mikenz66
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?
Replies: 25
Views: 380

Re: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?

OK, thanks. I guess I missed those, as it wasn't as obviously spelled out as in the progress between the immaterial states.

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Mike
by mikenz66
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.
Replies: 59
Views: 893

Re: Jhanas, Misconceptions that have arisen regarding the Four Rupa Jhanas.

If he says Jhana is not necessary for practicing the path, is he not contradicting the very teaching? the 4NT that includes the 8-fold path. :candle: He is not saying that Jhana is unnecessary. He is saying that the Suttas appear to indicate that a Stream Enterer or Once Returner does not necessari...
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?
Replies: 25
Views: 380

Re: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?

I meant that each jhāna has it's own upacara samadhi as preliminary stage. There are many upacara samadhis as there are many jhānas. I don't recall such thing from Visudhimagga. Upacara is a pre-jhanic state. After that comes jhana - 1st one. After 1st jhana one shifts to 2nd if he is skilled enoug...
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda
Replies: 90
Views: 11411

Re: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda

retrofuturist wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:08 pm
But what about my alarm clock?...
Hmm, you mean clinging to the alarm clock prevents the experience of cessation?
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Mike
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:00 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Tantric Theravada?
Replies: 141
Views: 44396

Re: Tantric Theravada?

Nope. Not in Thailand. I think you have to be a little nuanced about the type of tattoo and the position in society of the person. As I said, I've seen eminently respectable monks with tasteful tattoos that I assume are Sak Yant. I have friends with such tattoos, but usually in reasonably hidden pl...
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda
Replies: 90
Views: 11411

Re: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda

Some more notes... ... In terms of practicalities, in the last sermon there is an analysis of the Majjhesutta, https://suttacentral.net/an6.61/en/sujato , which refers to the Tissametteyyamāṇavapucchā, https://suttacentral.net/snp5.3/en/anandajoti : “For whom is there no turmoil? Who is the wise man...
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Tantric Theravada?
Replies: 141
Views: 44396

Re: Tantric Theravada?

It will be difficult to join a monastery, ... I don't completely disagree, but you will find monks (such as the Abbot of my local Thai Wat, and some of the high-ranking Thai monks whose pictures are on our walls) with small, but obvious, religious tattoos on their arms (not Buddha images of course ...
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:19 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?
Replies: 25
Views: 380

Re: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?

The traditional training of Asian monks such as Ajahns Buddhadasa, Chah, Mun, Maha Bua, etc would include plenty of commentarial concepts, so it's no surprise to see them using commentarial terminology in their teachings. Possibly but Ajahn Buddhadasa was notorious for rejecting commentarial materi...
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?
Replies: 25
Views: 380

Re: Jhana: are the three types of concentration real?

I have a couple of thoughts: 1. The traditional training of Asian monks such as Ajahns Buddhadasa, Chah, Mun, Maha Bua, etc would include plenty of commentarial concepts, so it's no surprise to see them using commentarial terminology in their teachings. 2. There are hints in the suttas about obstacl...